[News] NHL & PA: No World Cup of Hockey in 2024

[butterfly]

The league and player's association announced today that there will not be a World Cup of Hockey in 2024. They're trying to plan one for February(?) 2025.

Yet another disappointment for a cycle of fans and players that haven't seen a best-on-best international tournament for what will now be 10 years and counting.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1591151580807630848

[Locke]

Oh no....the horror...the horror.

[DeluxeMoustache]

In the current environment, they can’t plan for 15 months out?

I don’t really understand that part of the statement

They expecting global warming reversal between 2024 and 2025?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Yeah it's hard to tell what they are specifically talking about with that part.
- Russia's invasion of Ukraine and therefore their likely exclusion from any tournament
- Broader economic volatility/climate
- Covid concerns?
- The fact that no one cares about the World Cup of Hockey?

Which is it?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Yeah it's hard to tell what they are specifically talking about with that part.
- Russia's invasion of Ukraine and therefore their likely exclusion from any tournament
- Broader economic volatility/climate
- Covid concerns?
- The fact that no one cares about the World Cup of Hockey?

Which is it?

The fact is, all of these same factors exist save the bolded and yet the World Cup of soccer is not only going ahead, it changed the entire schedule of World Soccer in order to go ahead.

There might be some challenges, ultimately I'm guessing that the overall benefit of the WC of Hockey doesnt outweigh the challenges of putting it on so they just called it.

Better to quit before you commit effort to the cause.

[VilleN]

The NHL is bush league.

“We really want to grow the game!”
“How about we compete in international play in front of a global audience?”
“Hmm… no, seems risky. Let’s do silly jerseys! That’ll bring new fans in!”

[calgaryred]

World Cup of Hockey is no Canada Cup let it die

[Backstop]

Stop making this about you NHL, you exist because of the fanbase, stop stumbling around with topics that polarize that fanbase, and maybe stop always coming off looking greedy, amateurish and tone deaf.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by calgaryred

World Cup of Hockey is no Canada Cup let it die

It could be if they marketed it properly and did it with any sort of regularity

[btimbit]

That sucks, would have been fun

I saw on Reddit that the biggest thing is they want Russians to be there

[Northendzone]

I personally don’t care what the tourney is called, it would just be awesome to see best on best.

I am assuming the biggest issue is no Russians followed by Covid concerns and presumably the owners worried about what if my guy gets hurt.

But what do I know

[bluejays]

The World Cup of Hockey is a gimmick. Wish they did a real tournament throughout the world to see over a month the best play the best then play the finals in a neutral site. It's done right now as a pure cashgrab.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

I personally don’t care what the tourney is called, it would just be awesome to see best on best.

I am assuming the biggest issue is no Russians followed by Covid concerns and presumably the owners worried about what if my guy gets hurt.

But what do I know

I don't think injuries are part of it since they would always be a concern and wouldn't prevent it from being "feasible at this time".

I really hope the Russia thing isn't the problem again. Why not let them play? The NHL is okay but not the World Cup? They wouldn't even need any KHL players to form a team that could win.

Wasn't the original intent of the Canada Cup precisely to invite the Soviet Union to play hockey while their government was being mean and nasty?

I hope we're not waiting for worldwide political niceness before we can schedule a hockey tournament.

[CroFlames]

Why can’t the NHL and IIHF just get together and make every 4th year of the World Championships be the World Cup?

NHL season starts in Sept and finishes a month earlier and voila you have a best on best with a proper qualification cycle and no gimmick teams.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Why can’t the NHL and IIHF just get together and make every 4th year of the World Championships be the World Cup?

NHL season starts in Sept and finishes a month earlier and voila you have a best on best with a proper qualification cycle and no gimmick teams.

Money. NHL doesn’t want those IIHF plebs having any.

[SebC]

Something that hurts the prestige of the WCoH is when players decline participation. And then the lack of prestige hurts player participation further. If you want to make it a big deal, get mandatory participation in the next CBA.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by SebC

Something that hurts the prestige of the WCoH is when players decline participation. And then the lack of prestige hurts player participation further. If you want to make it a big deal, get mandatory participation in the next CBA.

Have there ever been any notable declines in any of the tournaments that weren’t due to injury?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by butterfly

The league and player's association announced today that there will not be a World Cup of Hockey in 2024. They're trying to plan one for February(?) 2025.

Yet another disappointment for a cycle of fans and players that haven't seen a best-on-best international tournament for what will now be 10 years and counting.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1591151580807630848

I can actually see why the PA wants this - a two-week plus break mid season for all the non-superstars, nobody loses precious time off in the summer, everyone is already in game shape, so less risk of injury, and break up the monotony of an 82-game season.

Just get it together guys, it shouldn’t be this hard to hold a tournament.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Locke

The fact is, all of these same factors exist save the bolded and yet the World Cup of soccer is not only going ahead, it changed the entire schedule of World Soccer in order to go ahead.
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I think that's completely different. The FIFA World Cup is the most prestigious soccer - maybe even the #1 sports tournament in the world. It's the equivalent to winning the Stanley Cup and an Olympic gold medal at the same time. It's watched by a billion people. The hockey world cup is a minor event.

Because of how hockey is structured, the primary world leagues are the NHL and the KHL and because of the Ukraine War, the KHL is heavily impacted. Russia is also one of the major powers of hockey. In soccer terms it would be as if Brazil declared war on Argentina and committed war crimes and atrocities and nobody else wanted them in the tournament. Russia has already been excluded from a lot of European hockey. Look at Dominik Hasek's activism to ban all Russian hockey players. In this atmosphere, it would be too complex and even controversial to stage one.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

I think that's completely different. The FIFA World Cup is the most prestigious soccer - maybe even the #1 sports tournament in the world. It's the equivalent to winning the Stanley Cup and an Olympic gold medal at the same time. It's watched by a billion people. The hockey world cup is a minor event.

Because of how hockey is structured, the primary world leagues are the NHL and the KHL and because of the Ukraine War, the KHL is heavily impacted. Russia is also one of the major powers of hockey. In soccer terms it would be as if Brazil declared war on Argentina and committed war crimes and atrocities and nobody else wanted them in the tournament. Russia has already been excluded from a lot of European hockey. Look at Dominik Hasek's activism to ban all Russian hockey players. In this atmosphere, it would be too complex and even controversial to stage one.

I don't see it what's complex and controversial here.

Just F Russia and be done with it. It's very simple and straightforward and pretty much everyone agrees they suck and shouldn't be involved.

The comparison to FIFA World Cup is also bad, because Brazil literally has to qualify each time just like every other country, and if they wouldn't qualify then too bad for Brazil, they'd just run the tournament without them.