Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by woob

Jim Prentice taught us Albertans that we don't like politicians telling us what to do, so clearly Freeland wasn't paying attention!

Prentice and Smith tried to ram their "plan" right down our throats which brought us NDP.1. Prentice and Smith are to blame for Rachel and the only reason I voted for Kenny was to get rid of Rachel.



Albertan's need to remember that Smith is a back stabber and a traitor.



Now here we are and the only reason I will vote for Rachel is to get rid of Smith once and for all.


Smith is a lying POS, cannot be trusted and needs to go.

[speede5]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Some Canadians are deciding on things more dire than cutting a streaming service. But most Canadians, including those Canadians, have bigger things to fret about than whether a politician said she’s cutting Disney+. You don’t, which is fine, but maybe you’re a little out of touch yourself.

But this is exactly why it's a dumb thing for her to say. She's speaking to all Canadians, the one's who have some frivoulous expenses and the ones who don't know how they are going to pay next months energy bill. She represents a government that controls how much tax you pay and has a major influence on the cost of essential services. You have to know your audience and it was a stupid ancedote that just pisses the later off.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by speede5

But this is exactly why it's a dumb thing for her to say. She's speaking to all Canadians, the one's who have some frivoulous expenses and the ones who don't know how they are going to pay next months energy bill. She represents a government that controls how much tax you pay and has a major influence on the cost of essential services. You have to know your audience and it was a stupid ancedote that just pisses the later off.

Pisses the latter who also happen to vote Conservative and dislike Freeland already, sure.

I doubt anyone else cares as much as people want to pretend they ought to.

[TheIronMaiden]

I am a socialist and it pisses me off. It is damn expensive being alive.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Except the anecdote only includes all of this context if you put it there yourself.

For a lot of households, little changes like cutting a streaming service is a normal, smart thing to do.

So should we praise her for her smart, practical advice? Or condemn her for her ignorant, insincere comment?

I’d argue both are fairly stupid and both require a lot of bias to buy. I don’t find it particularly convincing when people who already dislike a politician have to make up the context of a statement in order to get mad about it. If you have to assume all these negative things about it, are you mad at Freeland? or are you just made and busy figuring out what about?

Some Canadians are deciding on things more dire than cutting a streaming service. But most Canadians, including those Canadians, have bigger things to fret about than whether a politician said she’s cutting Disney+. You don’t, which is fine, but maybe you’re a little out of touch yourself.

I aint even mad. As for being out of touch myself, sure I maybe I am, but I'm also not out there trying to convince people that things are not really all that bad. Talking to Canadians as if they're all children is from the Trudeau playbook and will not endear Freeland to Canadians.

Like what a solution, jeez I bet a family having trouble paying their bills never thought to cut out an unnecessary monthly expense.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Honestly, "cut your streaming service" just seems like a solid 2022 analogue for "let them eat cake". Probably why some people find it jarring... definitely not worth spending a bunch of posts arguing about.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I'm not up in arms about the comment, but it is a little patronizing and out of touch. It reminds me of one of the local civic politicians in the LML here when someone asked about the Metro Vancouver gas tax and that maybe reducing the tax on fuel to help people with the cost of living, he asked if the person ever thought of buying an electric car because you can save in the long run. Really, thanks man, never thought of that! Oh wait, if someone doesn't have money to pay for gas, they likely don't have the dough for a new car, or a house to plug it in at either.

The latter is obviously more tone deaf, but they are both starting to get close to "let them eat cake" territory.

I think the most out of touch thing I have seen recently is the New York mayor debates when two candidates were asked how much an average home price in Brooklyn:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/n...lyn-mayor.html

[The Yen Man]

The comment doesn't bother me, but I can see how it can rub struggling families the wrong way, who may have already done those cuts, and are still struggling to get by. Cut back on luxury spending? Thanks tips, already done that. What's next? Should we cut back on food? Electricity?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

The comment doesn't bother me, but I can see how it can rub struggling families the wrong way, who may have already done those cuts, and are still struggling to get by. Cut back on luxury spending? Thanks tips, already done that. What's next? Should we cut back on food? Electricity?

Arguably that's the point. Cut back on meat and heat.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

What's next? Should we cut back on food? Electricity?

Yup, save the planet. Have less kids. No meat.

Stop eating. Solve the obesity epidemic.

[Fuzz]

Ok, so I've listened to this arguing about Freeland, and I actually watched the video( start at 6 min):

https://globalnews.ca/video/9254960/...h-living-costs

I think people are misrepresenting what she is saying. She isn't telling Canadians to cut Disney, she's giving an example from her household finances and saying she will do the same thing with government. Look at costs, and see what you don't need. This isn't advice for Canadians, it's a relatable example. This is dumb, move on.

[Northendzone]

So proud of the PM for ratcheting up the wokeness and appearing on rupiahs drag race.

Can’t wait to see him dress up in a new costume

[Looch City]

There's going to be so many snowflakes crying about it, I can't wait!

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

I aint even mad. As for being out of touch myself, sure I maybe I am, but I'm also not out there trying to convince people that things are not really all that bad. Talking to Canadians as if they're all children is from the Trudeau playbook and will not endear Freeland to Canadians.

Like what a solution, jeez I bet a family having trouble paying their bills never thought to cut out an unnecessary monthly expense.

It wasn’t offered as advice people might not have thought of.

This is the quote and the context it came in:

Asked if Ottawa is open to reviewing programs for wasteful spending, Freeland said the government announced in April it was looking for $9 billion in savings in the federal budget. She added the fall economic statement revealed that more savings were found than the April budget had anticipated.

To drive her point home, Freeland cited an example of her family’s own living choices: cancelling the children’s Disney+ subscription to save $13.99 per month.

”I said to the kids, ‘You’re older now. You don’t watch Disney anymore. Let’s cut that Disney+ subscription. So, we cut it. It’s only $13.99 a month that we’re saving, but every little bit helps,” she said.

“I believe that I need to take exactly the same approach with the federal government’s finances because that’s the money of Canadians.”

Literally has nothing to do with offering advice to others, trying to relate to Canadians who are struggling, or anything like that. It’s people being ridiculous and taking it out of context.

The question was about Ottawa’s wasteful spending. She said she found some savings in the budget. She compared it to her family finding savings by cutting something unnecessary. She then said she needs to take that approach with government money.

Literally nothing to do with advice for poor Canadians struggling to make ends meet.

[monkeyman]

I for one might consider cutting back from three latte's a day to two.

[Blaster86]

As an avid drag race fan (those who know...), I'm a big fan of this!

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I already stopped eating avocado toast like I was told to do, what more can you take from me?!

[chemgear]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cop27-...ment-1.6645552

Richer nations, including Canada, inch closer to paying for climate damage

Canada supports concept of climate compensation, but won't be held 'liable,' says environment minister

With Prime Minister Justin Trudeau skipping COP27 to focus on other events in Asia, Guilbeault is Canada's highest-ranking representative at the UN summit.

For many nations in the Global South, it's a fiercely held conviction that greenhouse gas emissions from wealthier countries are at fault for irreparable damage to their ecosystems, and that they should be compensated.

Canada accounts for about two per cent of global emissions. Canada's greenhouse gas emissions have been slowly falling since 2007. They peaked again in 2018, at the equivalent of 740 megatonnes of carbon dioxide, and have fallen the last two years for which there is data, said Guilbeault.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Yeah, nothing is going to happen on that front while we have Chinese representatives effectively gaslighting the rest of the world.

China's top climate envoy, Xie Zhenhua, appeared to confirm that dynamic when he told COP27 delegates on Wednesday that ​​"those countries such as ours, who have not contributed greatly to the [historical] emission of greenhouse gases," should not have to pay up.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

So proud of the PM for ratcheting up the wokeness and appearing on rupiahs drag race.

Can’t wait to see him dress up in a new costume

So stupid, lol.