Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Harry Lime]

The $422M to combat the monkeypox virus. If 1400 Canadians have contracted the virus, that's $300K a piece to get them to not have sex for two weeks. Getting the monkeypox sounds like a sound fiscal life option. That's a years worth of coverage for Canada.

Although, I know it's not a payout. They will probably make posters or something.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

The $422M to combat the monkeypox virus. If 1400 Canadians have contracted the virus, that's $300K a piece to get them to not have sex for two weeks. Getting the monkeypox sounds like a sound fiscal life option. That's a years worth of coverage for Canada.

Although, I know it's not a payout. They will probably make posters or something.

We need to start a Monkeypox thread in our ongoing Pandemics sub-forum.

I get all of my Pandemic information from Fuzz, he's started a news outlet called 'FuzzFeed' and since Fuzz isnt worried about it I assume its nothing to worry about.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

The $422M to combat the monkeypox virus. If 1400 Canadians have contracted the virus, that's $300K a piece to get them to not have sex for two weeks. Getting the monkeypox sounds like a sound fiscal life option. That's a years worth of coverage for Canada.

Although, I know it's not a payout. They will probably make posters or something.

I’d assume it’s for getting vaccine production running again as Canada only has about 300k doses of smallpox vaccine and their isn’t widespread production of it. Also if you look at the spending it’s 100 million this year and 300million next year which suggests they are expecting it to spread or perhaps vaccine spending ramp up is a two year process.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

The $422M to combat the monkeypox virus. If 1400 Canadians have contracted the virus, that's $300K a piece to get them to not have sex for two weeks. Getting the monkeypox sounds like a sound fiscal life option. That's a years worth of coverage for Canada.

Although, I know it's not a payout. They will probably make posters or something.

Vaccines aren't free. I believe the vaccine that Canada's using is about $75 CAD per person for the doses, plus the costs of administering it. It doesn't take long to get into the hundreds of millions of dollars at that price, particularly if Canada is also supplying doses to places that can't afford them.

[TherapyforGlencross]

CBC Quebec reporting multiple “powerful” unions are joining CUPE in their support of a strike. Sounds like they may be heading to Toronto.

If the strike increases across provincial boundaries, does the federal government get involved?

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...eurs-education

[Locke]

Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross

CBC Quebec reporting multiple “powerful” unions are joining CUPE in their support of a strike. Sounds like they may be heading to Toronto.

If the strike increases across provincial boundaries, does the federal government get involved?

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...eurs-education

Convoy??

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross

CBC Quebec reporting multiple “powerful” unions are joining CUPE in their support of a strike. Sounds like they may be heading to Toronto.

If the strike increases across provincial boundaries, does the federal government get involved?

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...eurs-education

What are you expecting to happen that would require intervention from the federal government?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

What are you expecting to happen that would require intervention from the federal government?

They could cripple the economy if they disrupt too much of the workforce.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

They could cripple the economy if they disrupt too much of the workforce.

Are you seriously expecting wildcat strikes in numbers large enough for that to happen?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Are you seriously expecting wildcat strikes in numbers large enough for that to happen?

I don't know what unions are fully capable of. You are the expert. How much support from across the country might the union be able to drum up?

Assuming this Google translation is accurate:

“ It's the entire Canadian labor movement that will mobilize. »

— A quote from Daniel Boyer, President of the FTQ

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross

CBC Quebec reporting multiple “powerful” unions are joining CUPE in their support of a strike. Sounds like they may be heading to Toronto.

If the strike increases across provincial boundaries, does the federal government get involved?

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...eurs-education

Originally Posted by Locke

Convoy??

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I don't know what unions are fully capable of. You are the expert. How much support from across the country might the union be able to drum up?

Assuming this Google translation is accurate:

Are you under the impression that mobilize means everyone goes on a wildcat strike?

Tough to guess how much support they could get but I’m curious to know what action you would expect the federal government to take in the event that your doomsday scenario where Unions disrupt too much of the workforce and cripple the economy were to happen.

[CaptainCrunch]

CSIS warned the PMO and the PM about China funding 11 2019 election campaigns.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9253386/c...dates-sources/

Canadian intelligence officials have warned Prime Minister Justin Trudeau that China has allegedly been targeting Canada with a vast campaign of foreign interference, which includes funding a clandestine network of at least 11 federal candidates running in the 2019 election, according to Global News sources.Delivered to the prime minister and several cabinet members in a series of briefings and memos first presented in January, the allegations included other detailed examples of Beijing’s efforts to further its influence and, in turn, subvert Canada’s democratic process, sources said

Based on recent information from the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), those efforts allegedly involve payments through intermediaries to candidates affiliated with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), placing agents into the offices of MPs in order to influence policy, seeking to co-opt and corrupt former Canadian officials to gain leverage in Ottawa, and mounting aggressive campaigns to punish Canadian politicians whom the People’s Republic of China (PRC) views as threats to its interests.

Chief among the allegations is that CSIS reported that China’s Toronto consulate directed a large clandestine transfer of funds to a network of at least eleven federal election candidates and numerous Beijing operatives who worked as their campaign staffers.
The funds were allegedly transferred through an Ontario provincial MPP and a federal election candidate staffer. Separate sources aware of the situation said a CCP proxy group, acting as an intermediary, transferred around $250,000.

“We simply don’t have a prosecutorial end game to deal with foreign interference,” said Dan Stanton, a former CSIS officer who studies Chinese interference, but isn’t privy to recent CSIS reporting. “The sophistication of the threat: it is not the guy with the fedora and black coat, like the old days with the KGB. The whole point of influence networks is that anyone can be used by a foreign state as a co-optee, or agent, or source.”

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Are you under the impression that mobilize means everyone goes on a wildcat strike?

Tough to guess how much support they could get but I’m curious to know what action you would expect the federal government to take in the event that your doomsday scenario where Unions disrupt too much of the workforce and cripple the economy were to happen.

Is that not what the unions are trying to get support for right now? It sounds like they are working on getting multiple unions all across Canada to go on strike.

Multiple sources told Global News a coalition of unions is planning a mass demonstration at Queen’s Park on Saturday, Nov. 12 and a massive multi-sector strike on Monday, Nov. 14.

The aim, sources said, was to bring the province to a standstill and apply maximum pressure on the Progressive Conservative government to repeal Bill 28, which invoked the notwithstanding clause to impose a contract on CUPE’s 55,000 education-support workers.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9256606/c...arios-bill-28/

I don't know what the feds could/would do if the worst case scenario happened but I don't doubt that our parliamentarians could find some sort of tools to use if they wanted to.

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

The $422M to combat the monkeypox virus. If 1400 Canadians have contracted the virus, that's $300K a piece to get them to not have sex for two weeks. Getting the monkeypox sounds like a sound fiscal life option. That's a years worth of coverage for Canada.

Although, I know it's not a payout. They will probably make posters or something.

As someone who has been jabbed by the mpx vax, the sexual contact bit is a bit overblown and shouldn't be treated like an STI - Skin-to-skin contact, fabric, or surfaces are all ways of getting it.
Given how covered up we'll all be for the next 6 months in this northern climate, sexy times will still be a great way to get it, but let's not demonize marginalized groups for it.

[ZedMan]

Frankly after the last 2 years kibbling over aggressive spending to combat an outbreak of a serious infectious disease seems ludicrous.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Is that not what the unions are trying to get support for right now? It sounds like they are working on getting multiple unions all across Canada to go on strike.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9256606/c...arios-bill-28/

I’m not seeing where it states in that article that multiple Unions are going to go on strike across Canada.

I don't know what the feds could/would do if the worst case scenario happened but I don't doubt that our parliamentarians could find some sort of tools to use if they wanted to.

The federal government only has labour jurisdiction on federally regulated industries so I think it would probably need to declare some sort of emergency to be able to much.

In any event it looks as though the pressure being put on the Ford government worked:

CUPE members will return to school after Ford promises to rescind controversial strike legislation

https://globalnews.ca/news/9257574/o...w-cupe-strike/

This isn’t a very good look for Ford. I hope there’s still a hearing on this though to prevent governments from trying to legislate this kind of garbage in the future.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Locke

Convoy??

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

They could cripple the economy if they disrupt too much of the workforce.

I think we need to see the Emergency Measures Act declared and start arresting the involved labour leaders. It's a dangerous precedent that was set earlier this year, but what's good for the goose and all that.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Slava

I think we need to see the Emergency Measures Act declared and start arresting the involved labour leaders. It's a dangerous precedent that was set earlier this year, but what's good for the goose and all that.

I’ve been waiting patiently for you specifically to make that type of comment and you didn’t disappoint(for a change)

[Slava]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

I’ve been waiting patiently for you specifically to make that type of comment and you didn’t disappoint(for a change)

It's hilarious that you think I'm some super rabid right-winger! It's actually quite interesting to see that because there are a lot of posters here who would characterize me as a hardcore Liberal.