[Signing] Bruins sign Mitchell Miller UPDATE: Rescinded

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

This is all getting blown out of control. The NHL and teams have always continued to employ POS humans regardless of their actions and they decide to make this kid an example??? Just recent and not too distant past examples,

Evander Kane
Jake Virtanen
Ian Cole
Anthony DeAngelo
Slava Voynov
Semyon Varlamov

Come on, this is nothing compared to what the above list of players did, especially considering it happened as a teenager. There is an obvious reason why this is getting the headlines and it has absolutely nothing to do with bullying. The NHL continues to be the league of the Double Standard.

This should be interesting as there seems to be a lot of overlap between the 'not guilty = total exoneration' and 'boys will be boys' crowds.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by cannon7

What have I said about her? I'm pointing out that the media coverage of this whole thing is single sourced from one lady. If you Google search news about this you will be hard pressed to find anything other than joni meyer-crothors quotes. Which should be a clue for any critical thinker, but I leave that as an exercise for the reader.

Originally Posted by cannon7

He has reportedly done community service, diversity training and mental health treatment while in the USHL:



‘This
is what our league exists for’: Tri-City Storm coach addresses Miller’s past
controversy

You've countered with another single-sourced piece...

which is fine and adds a bit of balance, but let's not pretend that his coach is bias-free and doesn't stand to gain from promoting his role in reforming Miller's character.

Why are you not complaining that the journalist did not dig for more details about this supposed character-building plan?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Maybe a bit of a lack of self awareness today - read your post again. Maybe it's time to take a break.

Dealing with a situation where you got called out for making a silly assumption about someone (that turned out, obvious to anyone, to be wrong) by making more assumptions about someone’s intent and emotional state, even despite them telling you otherwise, seems like another truly bizarre decision.

Again, nobody is as upset, confrontational, or dismissive as they are in your head. There’s no ledge, no breaks required, none of whatever that nonsense is. You’re a good poster, I like you, but you didn’t like that I called you on a bizarre comment and I get that, so when I say I’m happy to make an adjustment so that we avoid this weird petty back and forth, I mean it. If you were to offer the same, I’d say just ask intent instead of assuming it, as there would be zero issue. But up to you.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

This should be interesting as there seems to be a lot of overlap between the 'not guilty = total exoneration' and 'boys will be boys' crowds.

I’m just perplexed to how decisions are made to who gets to play and who doesn’t based on their past issues or actions. To me, Millers actions are the least severe of any of the players on that list but yet it is being made like the Boston Bruins signed Jeffrey Dahmer.

What goes into the decision? Is it based on how good of a hockey player you are? If you are already in the NHL do you get a free pass?

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

See but, this isn’t what anyone is saying. Nobody is saying he shouldn’t be able to have a job or that he has to go to jail. People have issue with him being given a chance at a luxury profession. Making the NHL is a dream and a privilege, not a right or a need. There is also very little difference between most tweeners, so there are literal thousands of players you could give a chance to.

Either you hold the behavior of children against them forever or you don't, if he buys a winning lotto ticket do we then refuse to pay him the prize, do we refuse to pay anyone the prize who did something questionable as a kid?

If we are going to accept that we forgive kids for their stupidity that forgiveness is based on the idea that as kids we don't have the rational capacity to make complex ethical choices, we forgive children because we do not judge them as competent in the way an adult is, if this is the basis of our forgiveness then logically (assuming he is saying and doing the things now that show he has matured and realizes the error of his ways) then the forgiveness should be total

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

5 of your last 7 posts in this thread have been about her. You like talking about her and bringing her up.

All of the posts saying Miller has never shown remorse are based on her comments and no other source. It's not a question of bringing her up when her statements are the basis of the whole argument.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

I’m just perplexed to how decisions are made to who gets to play and who doesn’t based on their past issues or actions. To me, Millers actions are the least severe of any of the players on that list but yet it is being made like the Boston Bruins signed Jeffrey Dahmer.

What goes into the decision? Is it based on how good of a hockey player you are? If you are already in the NHL do you get a free pass?

I imagine the NHLPA does. Mitchell isn't a member, thus isn't afforded the protections, the PA provides.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

All of the posts saying Miller has never shown remorse are based on her comments and no other source. It's not a question of bringing her up when her statements are the basis of the whole argument.

It's been reported by multiple outlets, and does not appear to be only hearsay from the victim's mother (though many reports reference the mother's reference to the magistrate's comments).

Convicted in juvenile court in 2016, Miller’s first apology was a court-ordered one. William Hutchenson, the juvenile magistrate in the case, even said to Miller, “I don’t have a sense of real remorse. But I do feel that you feel sorry for yourself.”

https://985thesportshub.com/listicle...he-for-bruins/

https://www.google.com/search?q=mitc...ih=596&dpr=2.4

[sureLoss]

Also from the Athletic article back in 2020, there were clubs that interviewed Miller and did not believe he was remorseful.

Others arranged Zoom calls with Miller that left them feeling unconvinced of his remorse.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

It's been reported by multiple outlets, and does not appear to be only hearsay from the victim's mother (though many reports reference the mother's reference to the magistrate's comments).

I've often seen news reported by ‘multiple outlets’ that were all copying other media reports, and it turned out that everything could be traced back to a single source. If that source should turn out to be unreliable, it doesn't matter how many people in the media repeated it.

[Reaper]

I'm willing to forgive a lot of things done by others that I deem to be terrible but it always hinges on contrition. Miller has thus far only demonstrated that he is sorry that he is in the situation he is in. That's not remorse. That's regret that the Piper finally came to collect on his debt.

[AC]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1589403939342274560

https://twitter.com/user/status/1589404002017759232

[cam_wmh]

oof

[jayswin]

yikes

[Paulie Walnuts]

But he deserves another chance the mob is out to get him.

[shogged]

Imagine defending this kid the entire thread lmao

[getbak]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1589407037711994880

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by shogged

Imagine defending this kid the entire thread lmao

Jay Random must be kicking some garbage cans right now.

[sureLoss]

News Update

Bruins have cut ties with Miller

https://www.nhl.com/bruins/news/brui...er/c-337296694

Statement from Bruins President Cam Neely:

"Today the Boston Bruins have decided to part ways with Mitchell Miller, effective immediately.

The decision to sign this young man was made after careful consideration of the facts as we were aware of them: that at 14-years-old he made a poor decision that led to a juvenile conviction. We understood this to be an isolated incident and that he had taken meaningful action to reform and was committed to ongoing personal development. Based on that understanding we offered him a contract.

Based on new information, we believe it is the best decision at this time to rescind the opportunity for Mitchell Miller to represent the Boston Bruins. We hope that he continues to work with professionals and programs to further his education and personal growth.

We owe it to our fans, players, staff, partners and community to make sure that our practices and protocols are in keeping with the ethos that we demand from ourselves and as an organization. As such, we will be reevaluating our internal processes for vetting individuals who wish to earn the privilege of playing in the National Hockey League for the Boston Bruins.

We are sorry that this decision has overshadowed the incredible work the members of our organization do to support diversity and inclusion efforts. We will continue to stand against bullying and racism in all of its forms.

To Isaiah and his family, my deepest apologies if this signing made you and other victims feel unseen and unheard. We apologize for the deep hurt and impact we have caused.

Finally, as a father, I think there is a lesson to be learned here for other young people. Be mindful of careless behaviors and going with the group mentality of hurting others. The repercussions can be felt for a lifetime."

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Jay Random must be kicking some garbage cans right now.

I thought he lived in a garbage can.