I read that article already. Fully. It’s trash. Doesn’t say anything except that he should be good because he was young.
That is a lie. In fact, I quoted in this thread where people in hockey have described Mitchell as a model teammate and a model citizen.
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First of all, it’s not third party hearsay, it’s court and school record. Mitchell Miller was chastised by the magistrate for clearly showing no remorse in the case.
That does not give you any grounds to allege that he has never shown remorse since. That is the part that is hearsay.
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I can see that you like to delete parts of people’s posts in your quotes and take them out of context.
I quote the parts I am specifically replying to. People on the Internet are encouraged not to quote long posts and clutter up forums with huge walls of text when a little editing will save the trouble.
Everyone can read what you said in its entirety if they choose. I quote selectively, not to distort what you said, but to draw attention to the particular bits that I am addressing. This is standard procedure on the Internet (and in print, too). If you have a problem with it, well, as they say, that's not a ‘me’ problem, that's a ‘you’ problem.
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But I urge you to go back through my posts and show where I asked for “revenge” as you put it. I did not.
There are two clear sides in this discussion. You have chosen a side which includes people who say Mitchell should be banished from hockey for life, and at least one who says he should be in prison. I am addressing the argument made by the side that you choose to support. If you disagree with your side on some point or other, let's hear it.
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I am merely stating that actions have consequences and if you refuse to actually believe that your actions are hurtful to others and only show “remorse” when it affects you, then you should continue to bear the consequences of your actions.
By that standard, almost no criminal should ever be released from prison. They didn't show remorse until they were faced with the prospect of serving time, so after that, nothing they ever do or say can possibly matter. Right?
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Expecting that people face those consequences is not asking for revenge,
Mitchell has already faced those consequences for years. You want the consequences to continue forever because you do not believe he is capable of remorse. And by your own logic, nothing he ever does or says now can change your mind, because it is too late.
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nor is it so that I can “feel virtuous”. But by all means, continue to attack my character if it makes you feel like it justifies your beliefs.
I'm not attacking your character to justify my beliefs – unlike a couple of posters who have attacked my character in this thread. I'm saying that your position in and of itself reveals an ugly aspect of your character. That's there whether I talk about it or not, but I think it's something that needs to be discussed. Far too many people in this world think there is something virtuous about things like Twitter mobs. There isn't.
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I don’t know about you, but at 14 years old, I knew enough to not call people the N-word, make them eat something I dragged across a urinal, or physically abuse them. Maybe I was special though….
Believe it or not the province trusted me to operate a motor vehicle, with supervision.
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That is a lie. In fact, I quoted in this thread where people in hockey have described Mitchell as a model teammate and a model citizen.
That does not give you any grounds to allege that he has never shown remorse since. That is the part that is hearsay.
I quote the parts I am specifically replying to. People on the Internet are encouraged not to quote long posts and clutter up forums with huge walls of text when a little editing will save the trouble.
Everyone can read what you said in its entirety if they choose. I quote selectively, not to distort what you said, but to draw attention to the particular bits that I am addressing. This is standard procedure on the Internet (and in print, too). If you have a problem with it, well, as they say, that's not a ‘me’ problem, that's a ‘you’ problem.
There are two clear sides in this discussion. You have chosen a side which includes people who say Mitchell should be banished from hockey for life, and at least one who says he should be in prison. I am addressing the argument made by the side that you choose to support. If you disagree with your side on some point or other, let's hear it.
By that standard, almost no criminal should ever be released from prison. They didn't show remorse until they were faced with the prospect of serving time, so after that, nothing they ever do or say can possibly matter. Right?
Mitchell has already faced those consequences for years. You want the consequences to continue forever because you do not believe he is capable of remorse. And by your own logic, nothing he ever does or says now can change your mind, because it is too late.
I'm not attacking your character to justify my beliefs – unlike a couple of posters who have attacked my character in this thread. I'm saying that your position in and of itself reveals an ugly aspect of your character. That's there whether I talk about it or not, but I think it's something that needs to be discussed. Far too many people in this world think there is something virtuous about things like Twitter mobs. There isn't.
You are a living textbook definition of a straw man argument. I can’t argue with that. In fact, I’m going to need a break from CalgaryPuck after this.
Feel free to go through my post history and see where I have sided with your so-called “Twitter mobs”. Spoiler alert, I actually put nuanced thinking into my positions. Mitchell Miller is just a piece of ####.
See ya later, CalgaryPuck.
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Wouldn't 'immediate aftermath' be like.......the next day? There was no apology until it was court-mandated? I hope there is more to the story than that.
He apologized immediately after the court mandated it. Are you expecting him to be remorseful immediately after he made a disabled black kid eat a urine coated candy, punched and kicked him and repeatedly called him the N-word?
Obviously they aren't racist. His sister needed to tell us she dated a African American and her brother the scum bag he is approved of it. He hired a black agent to world for him to show his remorse.
His sister post makes it seem like they went out and started dating hiring black people to make it seem like they are good people what a joke. Looks like it's deep rooted family issue for them.
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I personally think due to his complete lack of remorse, he shouldnt be given the PRIVILEGE of playing at the highest caliber of hockey. Period.
Unless he had personally apologized, which he never did.
Should he suffer forever for this? No. But as my first sentence, he doesn't deserve that right. I hope that he gets the wheels beaten off him every game to be frank. Until he owns his mistake to that person personally.
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Obviously they aren't racist. His sister needed to tell us she dated a African American and her brother the scum bag he is approved of it. He hired a black agent to world for him to show his remorse.
His sister post makes it seem like they went out and started dating hiring black people to make it seem like they are good people what a joke. Looks like it's deep rooted family issue for them.
Hate that so much, I’m not racist because I have a black friend. So ridiculous just stfu.
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Sorry for being racist? How do you forgive someone for racism? Don Cherry is that you?
He was in 8th grade. I could forgive someone for murder if I felt they were truly repentant and accepted their punishment for it. And I consider murder worse than racism. Crazy, I know.
Apparently virtue signaling these days is not exhibiting any virtues at all.
I don't know everyone's background but it's easy to tell the people waiting to defend this racist have never dealt with racism. If you only knew what it was like but hey keep handing out those million dollars second changes because you dated a African American.
Obviously they aren't racist. His sister needed to tell us she dated a African American and her brother the scum bag he is approved of it. He hired a black agent to world for him to show his remorse.
His sister post makes it seem like they went out and started dating hiring black people to make it seem like they are good people what a joke. Looks like it's deep rooted family issue for them.
Well your username checks out, at least. You parrot some nutty ####.
You are a living textbook definition of a straw man argument. I can’t argue with that. In fact, I’m going to need a break from CalgaryPuck after this.
Feel free to go through my post history and see where I have sided with your so-called “Twitter mobs”. Spoiler alert, I actually put nuanced thinking into my positions. Mitchell Miller is just a piece of ####.
See ya later, CalgaryPuck.
Prince, if there is one poster to put on full ignore it's Jay. The dude goes, mouth foaming, unhinged in debate. I assure you, the forum is much better without reading his.
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Not a surprise. People keep trying to tie their high morals to a billion dollar business like it matters. It doesn't, you still watch the game, pay money for stuff, let the t.v rating keep the sponsorship dollars flowing.
Perhaps it's time for people to really take some responsibility themselves for this.
It's all pro sports. Not just hockey. Not just only sport you follow. It's all. It's billion dollar corporations milking and available talent for any worth. And when you're so big that moral issues like allowing the Ray Lewis' of the world play sports, or Doug Gilpur or Patrick Kane or Logan Mailloux or or or or or or or or or . You get the drift. Nobody cares you care until you turn it off completely.
Until then, shut it and watch the murderous rape monkeys dance for your entertainment.
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Please describe what is "typical bullying", and also, look up frontal lobe development.
I'm not sure if I should be happy or heartbroken I did this. But after being bullied mercilessly the entirety of middle and high school and not having any friends or support at home, it certainly explains a lot about me. If cellphones had existed, let alone with video and I had even a small sample of it I'm certain I could sue the school board and win.
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The mother of a boy who was abused by Mitchell Miller, a star hockey player signed by the Boston Bruins, says he has never apologized to her son or her family. Miller pleaded guilty in 2016 to charges of racist bullying.
Meyer-Crothers said her son suffered years of abuse at the hands of Miller and that characterizing it as a mistake dismisses the true horror of what Miller did.
Miller also said in his statement that he apologized. Meyer-Crothers disputes that, saying Miller only contacted her son last week on Instagram and there was no apology.
"Why did he wait until a week ago when he knew he was being signed to the Bruins? So he didn't get as much flak this time?" Meyer-Crothers said.
Meyer-Crothers said she does believe people can grow and change, but that part of changing is showing true remorse, something she does not feel Miller has done over the last six years.
"Mitchell had to do a court mandated letter, which as a juvenile, the family never gets the letter," Meyer-Crothers said. "But the magistrate when it happened, made it clear that he didn't feel Mitchell had any remorse either."
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That is a lie. In fact, I quoted in this thread where people in hockey have described Mitchell as a model teammate and a model citizen.
That does not give you any grounds to allege that he has never shown remorse since. That is the part that is hearsay.
I quote the parts I am specifically replying to. People on the Internet are encouraged not to quote long posts and clutter up forums with huge walls of text when a little editing will save the trouble.
Everyone can read what you said in its entirety if they choose. I quote selectively, not to distort what you said, but to draw attention to the particular bits that I am addressing. This is standard procedure on the Internet (and in print, too). If you have a problem with it, well, as they say, that's not a ‘me’ problem, that's a ‘you’ problem.
There are two clear sides in this discussion. You have chosen a side which includes people who say Mitchell should be banished from hockey for life, and at least one who says he should be in prison. I am addressing the argument made by the side that you choose to support. If you disagree with your side on some point or other, let's hear it.
By that standard, almost no criminal should ever be released from prison. They didn't show remorse until they were faced with the prospect of serving time, so after that, nothing they ever do or say can possibly matter. Right?
Mitchell has already faced those consequences for years. You want the consequences to continue forever because you do not believe he is capable of remorse. And by your own logic, nothing he ever does or says now can change your mind, because it is too late.
I'm not attacking your character to justify my beliefs – unlike a couple of posters who have attacked my character in this thread. I'm saying that your position in and of itself reveals an ugly aspect of your character. That's there whether I talk about it or not, but I think it's something that needs to be discussed. Far too many people in this world think there is something virtuous about things like Twitter mobs. There isn't.
All this talk about ugly character and what one side is defending while you sit defending someone who doesn’t feel the need to apologise for calling someone the N-word and physically abusing him unless mandated by the court.
Sick stuff, as you say. I would be embarrassed to be you.
Jay, I mean this honestly: there is nothing virtuous or redeemable about the way you interact with people on here and the types of actions you defend. You’re just going to pretend it’s “me being me” or whatever, as you always do, but (again, as you’ve said) it might be time to look in the mirror. Maybe the thing that makes you sick is seeing yourself in a lot of the people you defend, because I can tell you if people have to choose between who has more “ugly” to their character between you and ThePrince based on this back and forth, it’s not ThePrince.
