Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1587899943305764866

Didn't the NDP already have a motion passed to have ArriveCan audited from a committee?

What is different with this motion?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

What is his big issue with it? That it cost $54 million(that's gotta be one off the smallest bills the feds have ever paid) for a system that millions of travelers used? What was the cost per use? What is the goal, here? Dig for months to unearth a moldy nothing burger? This is a waste of resources. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if this farce ends up costing more than $54 million.

It sounds like it is more about figuring out who received contracts to contribute to the app development and how much of the $54 million went to Liberal friends and insiders as a government handout.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by belsarius

Didn't the NDP already have a motion passed to have ArriveCan audited from a committee?

What is different with this motion?

He called it ArriveScam to show how clever he is.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

He's just so nauseating.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

What is his big issue with it? That it cost $54 million(that's gotta be one off the smallest bills the feds have ever paid) for a system that millions of travelers used? What was the cost per use? What is the goal, here? Dig for months to unearth a moldy nothing burger? This is a waste of resources. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if this farce ends up costing more than $54 million.

Well for starters, that some of the people that the Government said they paid have come forward and said they had nothing to do with it nor received any money.

So....where did the money really go?

I know that fiscal prudence in our lifetimes is essentially dead but that doesnt necessarily mean that we should just blindly allow the Government, any Government, to go around just openly stealing.

ArriveCan aside, this Liberal Government has to be the most fiscally opaque Government this country has ever seen. Money seems to go missing rather frequently.

And frankly, you're right. $54M is a small burger at the cafeteria, so why bother taking it? Maybe because its the tip of the iceberg?

Poilievre being an idiot aside, a little bit of financial transparency isnt a bad thing and for the Opposition to ask the Government 'Where did the money go?' shouldnt be unreasonable nor generate such a vitriolic reaction even from someone as blatantly partisan as some posters.

- Government spent money
- People alleged to have received it deny it
- Opposition asks where did the money go?
- Posters: Milhouse is a MORON! Who cares where the money went.

Brilliant stuff.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Locke

Well for starters, that some of the people that the Government said they paid have come forward and said they had nothing to do with it nor received any money.

So....where did the money really go?

I know that fiscal prudence in our lifetimes is essentially dead but that doesnt necessarily mean that we should just blindly allow the Government, any Government, to go around just openly stealing.

ArriveCan aside, this Liberal Government has to be the most fiscally opaque Government this country has ever seen. Money seems to go missing rather frequently.

And frankly, you're right. $54M is a small burger at the cafeteria, so why bother taking it? Maybe because its the tip of the iceberg?

Poilievre being an idiot aside, a little bit of financial transparency isnt a bad thing and for the Opposition to ask the Government 'Where did the money go?' shouldnt be unreasonable nor generate such a vitriolic reaction even from someone as blatantly partisan as some posters.

- Government spent money
- People alleged to have received it deny it
- Opposition asks where did the money go?
- Posters: Milhouse is a MORON! Who cares where the money went.

Brilliant stuff.

OK, well that sounds weird, I hadn't heard that. But wouldn't that be a responsibility of bureaucrats administering it? It can't be that hard to trace how a payment was made from what fund to who.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

OK, well that sounds weird, I hadn't heard that. But wouldn't that be a responsibility of bureaucrats administering it? It can't be that hard to trace how a payment was made from what fund to who.

What? You thought it was just "The ArriveCan App was a waste of money!" ?

No.

The Government released a list of companies paid to design and deliver it and a few of them came back saying that they had nothing to do with it and never received any money.

Its kind of the oppositions job to take the Government to task over little things like this regardless of people's personal feelings towards Poilievre.

[Looch City]

Microsoft, not ThinkOn, received $1.2-million contract for work on ArriveCan app, border agency says

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...t-for-work-on/

The Canada Border Services Agency has revealed that it was Microsoft, not ThinkOn, that received a $1.2-million contract related to the ArriveCan app, but the agency says it will take until next week before it can announce the results of its full review of related contracts.

The CBSA confirmed the recipient of the $1.2-million in contract work late Wednesday, a few hours after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was unable to clarify the matter during Question Period.

It was probably some intern's fault.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Locke

Its kind of the oppositions job to take the Government to task over little things like this regardless of people's personal feelings towards Poilievre.

Some of us thought the tweet was funny because Polievre is trying to make it look like he’s doing something groundbreaking instead of just doing his job. Considering you’re aware that it’s his job, don’t you see that humorous angle?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Microsoft, not ThinkOn, received $1.2-million contract for work on ArriveCan app, border agency says

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...t-for-work-on/

It was probably some intern's fault.

So you mean to say Trudeau didn't personally pull the money from a government cash register and drive door to door to his supporters with briefcases full of money? Why not wait fro CBSA to finish their work on this before bringing it to the HoC?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Some of us thought the tweet was funny because Polievre is trying to make it look like he’s doing something groundbreaking instead of just doing his job. Considering you’re aware that it’s his job, don’t you see that humorous angle?

Politician Grandstands for Brownie Points...more News at 11.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Locke

Politician Grandstands for Brownie Points...more News at 11.

It’s still funny when they do it and people start acting like they’re doing more than just that.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

So you mean to say Trudeau didn't personally pull the money from a government cash register and drive door to door to his supporters with briefcases full of money? Why not wait fro CBSA to finish their work on this before bringing it to the HoC?

I guess we'll never know because if anyone even dares question Fearless Leader they are worthy only of derision and mockery.

I mean, its not like the Liberals have misplaced funds before or ever even thought about anything shady or scandalous. Not them!

May as well dissolve the official opposition.

The Canadian electorate, in a nutshell.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Locke

I guess we'll never know because if anyone even dares question Fearless Leader they are worthy only of derision and mockery.

I mean, its not like the Liberals have misplaced funds before or ever even thought about anything shady or scandalous. Not them!

May as well dissolve the official opposition.

The Canadian electorate, in a nutshell.

Sure, that's exactly what I said and think.

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by Looch City

It was probably some intern's fault.

I mean, who HASN'T mixed up Microsoft and ThinkOn before? The spelling is so similar, and they're the same size companies and everything... Just a minor clerical error, I'm sure.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Sure, that's exactly what I said and think.

Locke’s MO lately seems to be overreacting while scolding others for reacting at all.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Locke

Well for starters, that some of the people that the Government said they paid have come forward and said they had nothing to do with it nor received any money.

So....where did the money really go?

I know that fiscal prudence in our lifetimes is essentially dead but that doesnt necessarily mean that we should just blindly allow the Government, any Government, to go around just openly stealing.

ArriveCan aside, this Liberal Government has to be the most fiscally opaque Government this country has ever seen. Money seems to go missing rather frequently.

And frankly, you're right. $54M is a small burger at the cafeteria, so why bother taking it? Maybe because its the tip of the iceberg?

Poilievre being an idiot aside, a little bit of financial transparency isnt a bad thing and for the Opposition to ask the Government 'Where did the money go?' shouldnt be unreasonable nor generate such a vitriolic reaction even from someone as blatantly partisan as some posters.

- Government spent money
- People alleged to have received it deny it
- Opposition asks where did the money go?
- Posters: Milhouse is a MORON! Who cares where the money went.

Brilliant stuff.

That's the problem with portraying yourself as a moron, when it comes time to do serious work, no one takes you seriously.

I totally agree that it was the right motion (still not sure why we needed one in committee and one in the House), but the whole edgy "ArriveScam" is just as cringy as "Justinflation".

I don't remember what quips were thrown at Harper like this (but I am sure there was something) but IMO it just takes away from his position and makes him look like a fool grasping at a soundbite instead of the Leader of the Opposition making a valid motion and argument.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

I mean, who HASN'T mixed up Microsoft and ThinkOn before? The spelling is so similar, and they're the same size companies and everything... Just a minor clerical error, I'm sure.

They're also headquartered practically right next door to each other!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by belsarius

That's the problem with portraying yourself as a moron, when it comes time to do serious work, no one takes you seriously.

I totally agree that it was the right motion (still not sure why we needed one in committee and one in the House), but the whole edgy "ArriveScam" is just as cringy as "Justinflation".

I don't remember what quips were thrown at Harper like this (but I am sure there was something) but IMO it just takes away from his position and makes him look like a fool grasping at a soundbite instead of the Leader of the Opposition making a valid motion and argument.

You're not going to get an argument from me there. I get that, but at the same time at least the Official Opposition is actually still doing its job.

At least as well as that collection of clowns can.

Whatever else you want to say about Poilievre, when it came to being a fiscal attack dog, that was his bread and butter.

Its the perfect storm. Poilievre is a Moron but Trudeau and Co just cant help themselves at the cookie jar.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Locke

Whatever else you want to say about Poilievre, when it came to being a fiscal attack dog, that was his bread and butter.

Its the perfect storm. Poilievre is a Moron but Trudeau and Co just cant help themselves at the cookie jar.

Makes one wonder how effective of a leader PP would be if the thing you consider to be his bread and butter appears to have had little to no impact on anything.