11-01-2022, 06:39 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: YYZ
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5 Wins in 7 games with long schedule gaps and the toughest schedule matchups in the league. We can see the guys are trying (some maybe too hard) and were just here to say not ####in good enough?
Hahahaha
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11-01-2022, 09:55 PM
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#22
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First Line Centre
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I am still underwhelmed by Huberdeau. I know he will eventually pick it up, as he has been consistent his whole career. However, this was while the Barkov line was taking the hard matchups. I know many Panther fans seemed to allude he was never a play driver, and so far, this is what I can agree on.
Thus far, he has not looked dangerous at all, in the games I have watched. In fact, I would have to say, Gaudreau puts players more on the back of their heels (offensively) than Huby, just from his play driving and puck handling skills. This was while Johnny G was the player all teams focused on primarily during his time here.
Cali Panthers fan, can you confirm this as well? Being you certainly have watched his career since he entered into the league.
Last edited by soulchoice; 11-01-2022 at 11:30 PM.
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11-01-2022, 10:05 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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huberdeau , lindholm , mangiapane
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11-01-2022, 10:16 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by FBI
Was looking through our stats and was pretty shocked that Hanifin and Tanev both have a grand total of 0 points. Zadorov with 1.
I know it's not all offense but last year Hanifin had 48 pts, Tanev 28 and Zadorov 22..
Are we not getting the puck up to the offense as well so far this year? Or is it mostly our 1st line not contributing..
Looking forward to a 7-1 game coming up soon where a bunch of our players get off the schneid..
Other players who need to step up: Lindholm, Huberdeau, Lewis, Markstrom.. Coleman?
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Hanifin got a ton of secondary assists last year from passing to Gaudreau on the rush, that was due to dry up. Unfortunately he’s now underperforming his career average for primary assists as well. I imagine he will start to pick up points though he’s never been particularly impactful in the offensive zone.
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Originally Posted by ResAlien
Is Lindholm an untouchable defensively elite centre? I ask because it kind of feels like he is what a lot of people thought Monahan was.
Without hammering in those high slot one timers it doesn’t feel like he’s doing a whole heck of a lot right now.
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I was thinking about this the other day. Lindholm is remarkably similar to a better Monahan. He’s got some more tools to work with, and can provide more defensively and in transition, but he’s not a C who can make his own chances.
As for this thread, I think it’s easier to identify players who are stepping up, but you’d like to see a lot better from Coleman, Andersson, Huberdeau, and Mangiapane. I imagine we will for most of them soon.
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11-01-2022, 11:17 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
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both goalies
every single mistake shouldn't be a goal against
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11-01-2022, 11:31 PM
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#26
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First Line Centre
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Neither goalie has my full confidence, 8 games in.
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11-01-2022, 11:43 PM
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#28
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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The whole damn tean.
Road trip can come soon enough!
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11-02-2022, 08:20 AM
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#29
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
If players need to step it up I guess that 117 point pace will be increased. They are behind only teams who’ve played 2-4 more games than them. They’ve beaten two of them (haven’t played the other).
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With e loss last night Calgary is 10th in the league in wining %, on pace for 102.5 points. With 7 of 8 games played at home.
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11-02-2022, 08:27 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
With e loss last night Calgary is 10th in the league in wining %, on pace for 102.5 points. With 7 of 8 games played at home.
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And the hardest strength of schedule
All home games isn't really an advantage either
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11-02-2022, 08:28 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
He is not earning that contract for another year.
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Does it matter? He's not earning much with bad reads and perimeter play that is generating nill lately.
I've been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt moving to a new team and conference, but we are nearly 10 games into the season with ample practice time and a training camp under his belt. The system should be sinking in and he should be making a positive impact on the scoreboard.
The Flames aren't going to win a lot of games if their best scoring forward isn't scoring. I'm sure this more normal schedule is going to help the whole team now, but the last thing you want is to have this snowball into a lengthy skid.
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11-02-2022, 09:02 AM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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Don't really know what to make of Huberdeau. I think his initial showing in games 1-4 was better than the last few, and even then was just alright. He looked like Alex Tanguay as a Flame.
It's extremely difficult to reach ppg, let alone 100, let alone 115 points, and break a record for assists by a LW in the NHL. Generally you can notice those players every night, they have so much elite skill that they are worth the price of admission. So I'm still waiting to see what Huberdeau does that's on that level. Hopefully November he shows us!
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11-02-2022, 09:07 AM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powderjunkie
Kadri needs to step it up and start sucking. Because my skepticism of his signing is aging poorly.
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He will leave a bigger hole when he ages.
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11-02-2022, 09:09 AM
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#34
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Franchise Player
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Jonas Hiller and Karri Ramo definitely need to step it up
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11-02-2022, 09:49 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jore
Hanifin got a ton of secondary assists last year from passing to Gaudreau on the rush, that was due to dry up. Unfortunately he’s now underperforming his career average for primary assists as well. I imagine he will start to pick up points though he’s never been particularly impactful in the offensive zone.
I was thinking about this the other day. Lindholm is remarkably similar to a better Monahan. He’s got some more tools to work with, and can provide more defensively and in transition, but he’s not a C who can make his own chances.
As for this thread, I think it’s easier to identify players who are stepping up, but you’d like to see a lot better from Coleman, Andersson, Huberdeau, and Mangiapane. I imagine we will for most of them soon.
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Hanifin season last year is a product of Tkachuk and Gaudreau getting so many points at 5 on 5. Nothing he does on the ice that I see shows he’s a 50 point dman. Should have sold high this summer on him
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11-02-2022, 10:10 AM
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#36
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sask (sorry)
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Someone had mentioned in another thread that the issue was that Huberdeau was now playing with 2 RHS. Since he is on the left wing why would this be an issue? Sorry it's probably obvious but I never played hockey and I would think a LHS dishing over to the RHS would be ideal for a one timer (for example).
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11-02-2022, 10:18 AM
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#37
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macho0978
Hanifin season last year is a product of Tkachuk and Gaudreau getting so many points at 5 on 5. Nothing he does on the ice that I see shows he’s a 50 point dman. Should have sold high this summer on him
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It's not too late yet, but if they wait all season I fear it will be.
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11-02-2022, 10:20 AM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kipperiggy
Someone had mentioned in another thread that the issue was that Huberdeau was now playing with 2 RHS. Since he is on the left wing why would this be an issue? Sorry it's probably obvious but I never played hockey and I would think a LHS dishing over to the RHS would be ideal for a one timer (for example).
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A LHS dishing over to a RHS is ideal for a one timer, if that LHS is on his off-wing.
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11-02-2022, 10:23 AM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VilleN
Sometimes chemistry doesn’t come quickly. It’s not that unbelievable that Huberdeau has a 7 game stretch where is not as good as two other great players.
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I'm surprised how impatient some fans are here. I felt it may take a half a season before all the new players become fully acclimated. It took Coleman a while last season to fit in but he started playing better in the 2nd half of the season. Gaudreau, Tkachuk out and Huberdeau, Kadri, Weegar in is a major roster change and we have to accept that this is a different Flames team and it may not be as good at least initially as Gaudreau and Tkachik brought elements to the team that isn't easily replaceable. All three players are here for a long time and eventually they will make this their team but right now it's a team finding its way and that shouldn't surprise anyone.
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11-02-2022, 10:26 AM
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#40
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I'm surprised how impatient some fans are here. I felt it may take a half a season before all the new players become fully acclimated. It took Coleman a while last season to fit in but he started playing better in the 2nd half of the season. Gaudreau, Tkachuk out and Huberdeau, Kadri, Weegar in is a major roster change and we have to accept that this is a different Flames team and it may not be as good at least initially as Gaudreau and Tkachik brought elements to the team that isn't easily replaceable. All three players are here for a long time and eventually they will make this their team but right now it's a team finding its way and that shouldn't surprise anyone.
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Totally agree.
It's never too early to point out who needs to step it up, but those wondering about contract value for one of the most consistent producing forwards in the league over the past 5 years are really jumping the shark.
Huberdeau is 2nd on the Flames in xGF% at 60.5%
He's very due for some big nights.
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