Ongoing General Automotive Thread 2.0

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse

cranks it to 30 everytime she gets in "to get warm"...

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Personally, I love basic manual controls. I like having quick and easy control of the speed and heat/cool settings. I don't like setting things according to a Celsius setting...I either want it colder or hotter and want to be able to change it quickly, which the old dials allow you to do easily.

Growing up, we didn't have AC in our cars, and my dad used it sparingly to save on gas, so I'm kind of the same even now. I only use AC when absolutely necessary, and I don't like the idea of automatic climate control using it without me explicitly telling it to. An old-school mindset I know, but it's stuck.

Holy #### we had the same dad.

The draw back for us was my dad also hated the noise of open windows so in the summer he'd just crank the "cool" setting in the car no A/C. That was barely livable in the front seat, but in the back seat it was hellish.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Depends a lot on the vehicle, for instance:

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/r/...myths-debunked.

Yeah, I think your speed definitely makes a big impact, the faster you go the better off you are using AC vs. windows.

I mean don't get me wrong, if its 30c out, I'm using AC. But if it's a nice 15-20 and I'm driving around town, windows for sure. My car is also the perfect door height for having your arm on the sill.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

That was barely livable in the front seat, but in the back seat it was hellish.

But that's how you build character!

I still remember that feeling of peeling your leg off of the hot vinyl seat. Ugh.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Table 5

But that's how you build character!

I still remember that feeling of peeling your leg off of the hot vinyl seat. Ugh.

We once drove from GTA to Detroit mid summer in a Datsun B210 and because my grandparents were over from the UK, they squished into the back with my sister.

I was put in the hatchback, it was a bloody sweat lodge.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

We once drove from GTA to Detroit mid summer in a Datsun B210 and because my grandparents were over from the UK, they squished into the back with my sister.

I was put in the hatchback, it was a bloody sweat lodge.

Gotta love the total disregard for child safety too.

That story reminds me of the time when 6 of us did a road trip through Italy... in a small 80s Skoda. Me being the smallest (but still around 11) had to sit on someones lap, or lay across 3, the entire time. My ass didn't touch the seat the whole trip. Definitely no AC in that car either...the only air we got was when the car overheated and we had to let it cool down.

Still a great memory though.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Depends a lot on the vehicle, for instance:

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/r/...myths-debunked

At 3% I'm not worrying about it at all. At 10%? Still probably happier to be comfy. Funny though, I would have expected a bigger engine to see less of a drop, where small engine would have to work harder.

Toyota has kind of fallen behind when it comes to modern tech and efficiency over the years. Is that regarding the new Turbo V6 or the old 5.7L V8?

[Bill Bumface]

I find auto climate control is not created equally across cars. Having a knob is essential, then you can just ignore the numbers and turn it one way a couple clicks to get warmer, turn it down to get colder. The numbers just help with the starting point that usually works.

The big problem I have is perpetually cold feet. I'll turn the heat up enough my head is way to hot, but my feet are still freezing. Sunroof vent open I guess?

The other one is sunlight. As soon as you're on the highway and the sunlight is shifting around, it really changes what is comfortable.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

I find auto climate control is not created equally across cars. Having a knob is essential, then you can just ignore the numbers and turn it one way a couple clicks to get warmer, turn it down to get colder. The numbers just help with the starting point that usually works.

The big problem I have is perpetually cold feet. I'll turn the heat up enough my head is way to hot, but my feet are still freezing. Sunroof vent open I guess?

The other one is sunlight. As soon as you're on the highway and the sunlight is shifting around, it really changes what is comfortable.

I would kill for climate control on the vertical plane - let me blast my feet with heat and keep my upper body cool.


I turn AC off whenever I’m going up a hill. And generally from a standing start until I’m at cruising speed.


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[timun]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It all depends on if you are a tweaker or a person that likes their interior temperature to remain consistent.

That's predicated on the false premise that automatic climate control will keep interior temperature consistent. In my experience it often won't. Or one has to fiddle with the temperature setting to find what's comfortable, rather than the temperature number itself being reflective of reality, e.g. setting the system to 21 °C isn't comfortable, it makes the system try to freeze me out of the car.

To me ACC's biggest shortcoming is that it's too slow to react. E.g. it's quicker and easier to manually set the system to max A/C, full blast fans and roll down the windows to get a hot, stuffy car comfortable in a minute or two.

In the winter I find it mostly pointless, as I'm often running full heat and it doesn't have to be "tweaked" anyway.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse

Kind of a moot feature to me since my wife doesn't understand what a thermostat is and just cranks it to 30 everytime she gets in "to get warm"...

Yours too eh? It drives me nuts, "you don't need to crank it up like that, it doesn't make it warm up any faster". "It works though."

[btimbit]

Jesus Christ mine too.

Can't get it through to her that the reason it isn't blowing yet is that it knows it won't blow until it's warm. No point in blowing cold air on the windshield

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by timun

That's predicated on the false premise that automatic climate control will keep interior temperature consistent. In my experience it often won't. Or one has to fiddle with the temperature setting to find what's comfortable, rather than the temperature number itself being reflective of reality, e.g. setting the system to 21 °C isn't comfortable, it makes the system try to freeze me out of the car.

To me ACC's biggest shortcoming is that it's too slow to react. E.g. it's quicker and easier to manually set the system to max A/C, full blast fans and roll down the windows to get a hot, stuffy car comfortable in a minute or two.

In the winter I find it mostly pointless, as I'm often running full heat and it doesn't have to be "tweaked" anyway.

It's got really good in modern vehicles. We had a 2014 Outback and it had terrible automatic climate control but modern Fords, VW, BMW, Genesis that I have owned have been very consistent. Even my Tesla has been pretty good.

It's not that they are slow to react and more that most people don't want full blast A/C or heat in their face at any time as it's not overly pleasant. In cold weather it's useless to blast air unless it's up to a warm temperature and modern systems are very good at ramping up the air slowly as it warms or conversely as it cools. It is expected that you will never make everyone happy with automatic climate control so the goal is to satisfy most people which IMO they do quite well. Also with the new car phone apps you can usually precondition your interior if that's a big problem for you.

[timun]

... or I could just use the manual controls as always and be perfectly happy.

For me it's a solution in search of a problem. As I said I don't find it useful, and couldn't care less if I have it or not.

[woob]

I don't use my automatic temp controls at all. I find it runs the fan at high speed too much, which annoys me. I'd rather control all that myself.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Sliver

That does look sick.

Hey pylon, have you shared your thoughts on the mk8 GTI?

It's not really for me.

My thoughts are well known on digital cockpits in cars, and unfortunately there is way too much touchpad/screen stuff for my liking. It drives nice, and pulls a bit harder, but feels 'number' than the previous cars.

The absolute pinnacle of the Golf/GTI line for me, was the 2016/2017 Golf R. That car was utterly perfect. It had all the cool stuff, but was still button and switch analog. Completely understated as anyone but all the hardcore enthusiasts would have thought you just had a fancy Golf with 19's. Lacked any over the top wings, fairings, or honey comb trim. It was such a classy, tasteful car that had incredible performance.

It was such a unique car it had the broadest demographic I have ever seen for the couple years we had it. 25 year old kids with good taste would opt for it over STI's and Focus RS's as their full time driver. And we had ultra rich people in their 50s/60s/70s that drove Turbo 911's and Ferrari's in the summer that used it as their winter car/grocery getter. The amount of million plus dollar mansions in this city that have one stashed in their garage is crazy. And a ton of these cars have very little miles on them and I always try to unsuccessfully buy them back when they are in for service.

The 18 and 19 saw the same demographic, but the analog feel of the 16/17 was always the tipping point for me.

The new car just feels like your driving a gaming PC, much like the new Mustang will probably feel. My wife had one of the first 2022's Rs, but sold hers and opted to go back to a low mileage 2018 R.

[speede5]

Made the mistake of listing another car on kijiji. Bombarded by at least 5 'serious buyers' who want to come look at the car but just want me to send them the vehicle report. Has every scammer set up their own carfax copycat? I got links to 4 different companies. There has got to be a way to stop these annoying aholes. They are relentless.

[Nufy]

Just say no...

I am about to list a car as well but will probably piss off some potential buyer with my cynicisn reqarding the users...

Oh well...

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Nufy

Just say no...

I am about to list a car as well but will probably piss off some potential buyer with my cynicisn reqarding the users...

Oh well...

Did you ever sell your RV? Felt like you had that listed for years.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by speede5

Made the mistake of listing another car on kijiji. Bombarded by at least 5 'serious buyers' who want to come look at the car but just want me to send them the vehicle report. Has every scammer set up their own carfax copycat? I got links to 4 different companies. There has got to be a way to stop these annoying aholes. They are relentless.

Kijiji is horrible for this. It's why I got my most recent acquisition for wholesale cost from the seller; he was too tired of dealing with assh-les and teenagers on Kijiji, and I was -- and I quote -- "the first reasonable person to come look at this". I paid him what the dealer offered him on trade. I didn't mention that the capital reduction via trade-in had tax advantages that my paying him cash didn't.

Obligatory garage shot:

Spoiler!