Monahan I will cheer throughout this season and hope to see him have a career year and win the Masterton, but moving him to get Kadri was a good move. It was a true win-win. As much as I wish him well, I don't feel he's missed on the ice for the Flames.
Gaudreau on the other hand, I would take back in an instant. If the Flames had the current roster + Johnny, they would be a dream team. I don't expect to see another player like Johnny on the team again for many years. Huberdeau is excellent too and the team is better than last year now, but if there's a parallel universe where the Flames somehow kept Johnny, made the Tkachuk trade, and still brought in Kadri, I want to watch their games.
I assume he means instead of Huberdeau. It’s a tough comparison since I think both have their pros and cons. I think the biggest thing that Gaudreau would give the flames now is a puck carrier for the top line. Lindholm is struggling with it and Huberdeau really doesn’t have that as a strength.
But I think Huberdeau has some advantages too. I think our PP is better with him instead of Johnny. Also Johnny had issues with his game scaling to playoff time. Sure he could do button hooks all day long against crap teams but against top teams we see what the predictably of his game and his lack of size cost him. We will have to see if Huberdeau is capable of doing things Johnny couldn’t do because of his lack of size.
I assume he means instead of Huberdeau. It’s a tough comparison since I think both have their pros and cons. I think the biggest thing that Gaudreau would give the flames now is a puck carrier for the top line. Lindholm is struggling with it and Huberdeau really doesn’t have that as a strength.
But I think Huberdeau has some advantages too. I think our PP is better with him instead of Johnny. Also Johnny had issues with his game scaling to playoff time. Sure he could do button hooks all day long against crap teams but against top teams we see what the predictably of his game and his lack of size cost him. We will have to see if Huberdeau is capable of doing things Johnny couldn’t do because of his lack of size.
That is not how he wrote it. He said he want’s everything to happen + keep Johnny which is pretty much impossible without another huge subtraction. I guess they could have dumped futures to move Lucic and likely could have easily obtained futures and not sign Mangiapane? Extending Huberdeau and Weegar would have been next to impossible as well so it is a dream scenario.
We have 8 years of Gaudreau highlights to compare against 6 games of Huberdeau. Let's at least go through a road trip before we decide that Huberdeau doesn't compare.
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If he couldn’t keep up with top lines defensively in his prime...
Monahan never had a prime. He's 28 right now, his prime was just starting the season he had 34g and 82pts. Then his injuries kicked in and that was the end of it.
Monahan never had a prime. He's 28 right now, his prime was just starting the season he had 34g and 82pts. Then his injuries kicked in and that was the end of it.
Well sure but I meant the years up to the year we lost to the Avs. It was a high scoring line but it was never great 5-5 and mostly got production from the PP.
We have 8 years of Gaudreau highlights to compare against 6 games of Huberdeau. Let's at least go through a road trip before we decide that Huberdeau doesn't compare.
And the Flames never started 5-1 with Gaudreau, not to mention strength of schedule. Flames haven't even played a bad team
Well sure but I meant the years up to the year we lost to the Avs. It was a high scoring line but it was never great 5-5 and mostly got production from the PP.
Well, this is just not true. In Monahan's 82-point season he scored 23 powerplay points, accounting for 28% of his production. This was actually slightly down from his average, which was pretty consistently around 30%, which itself is completely normal for most NHL top-six forwards. Before coming to the Calgary Flames, vaunted defensive wizard Nazem Kadri scored about 30% of his points on the powerplay every year.
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I assume he means instead of Huberdeau. It’s a tough comparison since I think both have their pros and cons. I think the biggest thing that Gaudreau would give the flames now is a puck carrier for the top line. Lindholm is struggling with it and Huberdeau really doesn’t have that as a strength.
But I think Huberdeau has some advantages too. I think our PP is better with him instead of Johnny. Also Johnny had issues with his game scaling to playoff time. Sure he could do button hooks all day long against crap teams but against top teams we see what the predictably of his game and his lack of size cost him. We will have to see if Huberdeau is capable of doing things Johnny couldn’t do because of his lack of size.
yeah huberdeau is the superior PP player . John was streaky there and most of the time underwhelmed
I think the changes have made us a better special teams team and that will allow us to line up better against Edmonton since the penalties seem to flow against them no matter what time of year now
yeah huberdeau is the superior PP player . John was streaky there and most of the time underwhelmed
I think the changes have made us a better special teams team and that will allow us to line up better against Edmonton since the penalties seem to flow against them no matter what time of year now
The power play also went through Johnny, so if you shut him off, they couldn’t do anything.
Now the unit has multiple threats and entries.
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The power play also went through Johnny, so if you shut him off, they couldn’t do anything.
Now the unit has multiple threats and entries.
exactly . it feels like huberdeau, kadri and rasmus all take turns being the guys to watch out for
I always hated how much of the game plan went through john . it was too easily shut down if he wasn't on his game and I think it limited what we saw from other players because they were directed to bump it back to john which became so predictable
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