10-23-2022, 06:04 PM
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#3021
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Originally Posted by flamesfever
I don't know whether it's been said, but it was the Conservative Government under Premier Alison Redford that raised the AISH by $400. from $1158. to $1558. Should it be indexed? I would agree it should be.
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You mean the centrist and perhaps even Center left Redford government who was pro UN Globalist
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10-23-2022, 06:32 PM
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#3022
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10-23-2022, 06:35 PM
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#3023
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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If we let the 80 plus vote that seems like a good idea. They are likely more knowledgeable about an assortment of issues and the roles and responsibilities of government than their parents.
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10-23-2022, 06:39 PM
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#3024
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Originally Posted by GGG
If we let the 80 plus vote that seems like a good idea. They are likely more knowledgeable about an assortment of issues and the roles and responsibilities of government than their parents.
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It would have such a good effect on future civic responsibility/participation if high school students voted en masse as part of the curriculum. So many people I know - probably a majority - didn't vote at all between 18-40, and then picked it up sometime after that.
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10-23-2022, 06:45 PM
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#3025
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Originally Posted by Yoho
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Would the UCP not welcome this? Shouldn’t a lot of 16/17 year olds be thanking the UCP for all the jobs that were created by passing minimum wage laws that violate the Alberta Human Rights Act?
What’s that you say, the change didn’t actually create jobs and only saved businesses the additional wage costs by exploiting minors? 
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10-23-2022, 08:14 PM
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#3026
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
What facts are you basing your disagreement on? Kenny messed up with COVID and I get that nurses and teachers have been unhappy but my wife is a teacher. It hasn't affected us in the least.
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Is she loving the new curriculum?
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10-23-2022, 08:19 PM
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#3027
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Originally Posted by GGG
If we let the 80 plus vote that seems like a good idea. They are likely more knowledgeable about an assortment of issues and the roles and responsibilities of government than their parents.
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As an Alberta social studies teacher, I'd say that lots of kids are very well informed and take a passion in what's happening in the society around them. Many (but not all) share the same ideas and values as their parents, which is fine.
I'd support lowering the voting age, and think it would really help if kids could actually vote when they are learning about some of these issues in school.
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10-23-2022, 08:36 PM
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Isn't the min age to get a UCP membership (and thus vote for leader) 14 years?
Voting in the provincial election at 16 only makes sense then.
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10-23-2022, 09:14 PM
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#3029
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Join Date: Dec 2018
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Originally Posted by BlackArcher101
Isn't the min age to get a UCP membership (and thus vote for leader) 14 years?
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What’s your point?
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10-23-2022, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by b1crunch
As an Alberta social studies teacher, I'd say that lots of kids are very well informed and take a passion in what's happening in the society around them. Many (but not all) share the same ideas and values as their parents, which is fine.
I'd support lowering the voting age, and think it would really help if kids could actually vote when they are learning about some of these issues in school.
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yes, but do the majority of them have enough experience and knowledge to make an informed decision? Are they able to set priorities? Can they be over influenced by teachers or social media? It seems that the extreme environmentalists have set their sights on the younger vote with their scare tactics.
I worry about the "dumbing down" of the voting base. It's already at an all time low in my estimation.
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10-23-2022, 09:22 PM
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#3031
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Originally Posted by BlackArcher101
Isn't the min age to get a UCP membership (and thus vote for leader) 14 years?
Voting in the provincial election at 16 only makes sense then.
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Originally Posted by Doctorfever
What’s your point?
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Voting in the provincial election at 16 only makes sense then.
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10-23-2022, 09:26 PM
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#3032
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Join Date: Dec 2018
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Originally Posted by Yamer
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Why would the age limit to purchase a UCP membership have any bearing on how old you should be to vote in a provincial election?
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10-23-2022, 09:29 PM
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#3033
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Originally Posted by Doctorfever
Why would the age limit to purchase a UCP membership have any bearing on how old you should be to vote in a provincial election?
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Why shouldn’t it? If you’re old enough to vote for the current premier why in your opinion should you not be able to vote for an MLA?
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10-23-2022, 09:32 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2018
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Originally Posted by iggy_oi
Why shouldn’t it? If you’re old enough to vote for the current premier why in your opinion should you not be able to vote for an MLA?
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So what should the voting age be in your opinion, 14?
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10-23-2022, 09:37 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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I’m not super invested in a voting age debate, but doesn’t it have to do with being a taxpayer? People under 18 aren’t paying income tax…although maybe the NDP has a plan to square that circle as well!
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10-23-2022, 09:37 PM
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#3036
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Originally Posted by Doctorfever
So what should the voting age be in your opinion, 14?
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Half the 24 year old "adults" I know are idiot children so I say 30.
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10-23-2022, 09:38 PM
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#3037
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: losing CPHL bets
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Originally Posted by flamesfever
yes, but do the majority of them have enough experience and knowledge to make an informed decision? Are they able to set priorities? Can they be over influenced by teachers or social media? It seems that the extreme environmentalists have set their sights on the younger vote with their scare tactics.
I worry about the "dumbing down" of the voting base. It's already at an all time low in my estimation.
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After discussing social studies with the teenager and her friends, I'm not convinced that the 16-17 year old voting block is much different than any other voting block.
They all seemed to care about whatever their parents teach them to care about. Jobs, taxes, climate, whatever.
The one difference I noticed is that they care way more about education and LGBTQ issues than the adults do.
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10-23-2022, 09:40 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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If you're 14, and you can buy a political membership at 14 (didn't even know you could do that with the UCP), are you not then able to vote on the leader of your party, thereby influencing the political climate of Alberta below the official voting age?
If I'm wrong on this I apologize. Just looking for some clarification here. Are 14 year olds allowed to vote as UCP members?
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10-23-2022, 09:42 PM
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#3039
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Originally Posted by Slava
I’m not super invested in a voting age debate, but doesn’t it have to do with being a taxpayer? People under 18 aren’t paying income tax…although maybe the NDP has a plan to square that circle as well!
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There are people over 18 that don't pay income tax either, right?
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10-23-2022, 09:43 PM
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#3040
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by dsavillian
There are people over 18 that don't pay income tax either, right?
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I guess if they don’t have an income?
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