Honestly I think part of their issue is they have a locker room full of guys who all want to be “the guy” and the group of them think they are better than the rest:
Miller
Boeser
Pettersson
Horvat
Hughes
They all appear to be in it for themselves, no team cohesion and nobody willing to die on the ice for one another. There was a report that the Locker room was very divided, sad to see a team implode this bad and sadly Bruce will get the axe when he’s really not the problem.
Hughes is a ####ing a$$hole. Remember the all star game he wouldn't pass the puck to Kchuck when he was wide open to score but in that game Matthew passed with them just like they were any other team mate.
Hughes is a ####ing a$$hole. Remember the all star game he wouldn't pass the puck to Kchuck when he was wide open to score but in that game Matthew passed with them just like they were any other team mate.
It’s… an all star game. I mean maybe he is maybe he isn’t as you say he is but using an all star game as evidence of anything isn’t going to help your argument
Hughes is a ####ing a$$hole. Remember the all star game he wouldn't pass the puck to Kchuck when he was wide open to score but in that game Matthew passed with them just like they were any other team mate.
This is a ridiculous statement.
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Maybe it's not Benning. Maybe it's the organization. Post Benning they have continued making absolutely terrible moves. The Miller contract is now untradeable and it hasn't even kicked in.
Maybe it's not Benning. Maybe it's the organization. Post Benning they have continued making absolutely terrible moves. The Miller contract is now untradeable and it hasn't even kicked in.
That organization sure has an affinity for bad signings/contracts. This has to be a record even for them… the team is only 6 games into the season after signing an extension with Miller (that has hadn’t even kicked in yet) and he’s already become an issue in the room and on the ice. He went from being a valuable asset that could return multiple picks/prospects to an untradeable player with an anchor of a contract in just a few months.
The canucks fell victim to the same trap the Flames did. A young skilled forward who is one dimensional driving the offense bringing a young team to the playoffs.
Management pushes the chipa in early thinking its time to contend. Teams prepare defensive schemes to handle the skilled forward, veteran contracts dont quite pan out, discontent and mediocrity follows.
Building a team is tough.
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Don't pay that much attention to things in Vancouver and yes noticed the multiple game blown leads, but last night it's 3-1 with 5 minutes left, and then an EN and a goal against in garbage time. Buffalo is a good team, they beat us fair and square.
Sounds like a (unsurprising) overreaction from fans, though some internal issues, likely starting with the owner and filtering on down from there, is going on concurrently.
The Miller signing timing was odd in the offseason. My guess is maybe the president made that call and overruled the coach and president (who is basically also the GM) about signing the player to that contract. Now Miller, who also maybe wasn't keen on being there going forward, but then saw that his market value wasn't what he thought it was in the offseason, and then the Canucks threw bag of money at him long term, was never enegerized about being there and
is again realizing he doesn't want to be there now, let alone for another 7 years.
An over reaction sure, but early as it is 0-4-2 spells the end of the playoffs for Vancouver. It takes a miracle to dig out of that hole.
Over the summer, as a Canucks fan, all we heard from management and the players was how critical it was to get a strong early start... as that is what set them back last year. Even with their strong play in the 2nd half of last year, it wasn't enough to overcome their bad start last year.
So... we are seeing last year repeated again (but perhaps even worse this year). So it isn't just the performance over these last 6 games that is triggering fans... it is the repeat of what occurred last year and previous seasons.
Miller will likely get out of his current funk, but I was, along with many fans were surprised to see him extended. There is a reason why New York and Tampa Bay moved on from Miller, I imagine he has always been a defensive liability. His points were not enough for New York and Tampa Bay to offset that. You can't have a player like this and expect to go far in the playoffs (or even make the playoffs).
Don't pay that much attention to things in Vancouver and yes noticed the multiple game blown leads, but last night it's 3-1 with 5 minutes left, and then an EN and a goal against in garbage time. Buffalo is a good team, they beat us fair and square.
Sounds like a (unsurprising) overreaction from fans, though some internal issues, likely starting with the owner and filtering on down from there, is going on concurrently.
The Miller signing timing was odd in the offseason. My guess is maybe the president made that call and overruled the coach and president (who is basically also the GM) about signing the player to that contract. Now Miller, who also maybe wasn't keen on being there going forward, but then saw that his market value wasn't what he thought it was in the offseason, and then the Canucks threw bag of money at him long term, was never enegerized about being there and
is again realizing he doesn't want to be there now, let alone for another 7 years.
I think some players knew it was a good idea to cash in on their career years last season. Even if they had one year left on their contracts… a lot can happen in a year. A player that chose to wait till free agency could have a terrible season and suddenly go from offers of 7 x$8 million/year contracts to a one year “show me” deal of $3 million. Look a Klingberg as an example.
They have $15M tied up in just Hughes and OEL on the back end for a long time. That is a big bet
Hughes is a great player. There's no issue there. He's a tremendously dynamic offensive dman. But needs to be paired with a proper all around top pairing dman.
I guess they were thinking OEL was going to be that.
But Hughes isn't the problem. It's the rest of the blueline that is.
The problem is the forwards and the poor goaltending so far. Coming in to the season, Demko implied he would be challenging for the Vezina. How is that going so far?
Another year another round of Canuck fan hysterics. They're like a soap opera.
Andrew Walker relaying on Barn Burner on Friday how pretty much the moment he started doing in radio in Vancouver he started getting DMs telling him to "unalive" himself. Something about that city pops something in everyone's brain
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The problem is the forwards and the poor goaltending so far. Coming in to the season, Demko implied he would be challenging for the Vezina. How is that going so far?
Agree that Demko hasn't been close to his old self, but he too will be back to his old ways, just as Markstrom will. The defensive group for the Canucks lacks enough guys who can quickly get the puck up ice I their forwards. Hughes is solid, Rathbone looks like he can do it too but the rest of the mix is meh. Without more of those type of dmen, the forwards and Canucks as a group are moving up ice way too slowly.
It’s funny some are saying it’s only 6 games/relax etc.
Imagine the flames came out 0-6 to start the year including 3 straight blown leads…
We’d be just as upset if not more.
Vancouver isn’t riding this out, don’t forget they bombed the end of last season as well, they need to rebuild/re-tool and change the culture in that room.
Too many “stars” and none of them want to work for it.
Although I get your point, if the coach can not get players to play to their potential, it unfortunately IS a coaching issue. That's just how hockey plays out. I disagree that his job is safe, at least in Vancouver.
