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Old 10-21-2022, 11:17 PM   #161
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lol, fair enough.

Edit: Although the receiving GM saying something like that... not much different than Feaster and his "best player not in the NHL" schtick.
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Old 10-21-2022, 11:46 PM   #162
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I wouldn't call Tkachuk a "generation" talent either, but I have no problem putting him in the same tier as Huberdeau. I am probably in the minority, but when I consider everything Tkachuk brings, I put him in next grouping just after what would be considered a "generational" talent when taking all aspects of his game into consideration.

I thought at the time, and still do believe, that it was a fair and even trade. Both teams likely got ~8 prime peak playing years from star players (Huberdeau = 4, Weegar = 4, Tkachuk = 8). The downside for the Flames is they might be handcuffed in the later years. Adding a 1st rounder and Schwindt helped alleviate that difference though.

Of course at the time, we did not know for sure if Weegar and Huberdeau would re-sign. If they hadn't, the trade would have to be measured by what additional assets would be returned or if the rentals would have a big payoff. Treliving obviously was counting on signing them though. I also say "likely" 8 prime years, because obviously no one knows how any of these players will age. It's not something you can always predict, but just going by the norms.
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I imagine Tkachuk being overly-aggressive on Kutcherov, is related to this hit on Barkov.

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Tkachuk has started well but they also have a comically easy first 10 games with 2 playoff teams from last season in the first 10 (already lost both)

With that D they might struggle big time when the competition gets tougher next month
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lol, fair enough.

Edit: Although the receiving GM saying something like that... not much different than Feaster and his "best player not in the NHL" schtick.
Yeah, and Feaster is STILL raked over the coals for this remark almost a decade after he left this market.

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I wouldn't call Tkachuk a "generation" talent either, but I have no problem putting him in the same tier as Huberdeau. I am probably in the minority, but when I consider everything Tkachuk brings, I put him in next grouping just after what would be considered a "generational" talent when taking all aspects of his game into consideration.

I thought at the time, and still do believe, that it was a fair and even trade. Both teams likely got ~8 prime peak playing years from star players (Huberdeau = 4, Weegar = 4, Tkachuk = 8). The downside for the Flames is they might be handcuffed in the later years. Adding a 1st rounder and Schwindt helped alleviate that difference though.

Of course at the time, we did not know for sure if Weegar and Huberdeau would re-sign. If they hadn't, the trade would have to be measured by what additional assets would be returned or if the rentals would have a big payoff. Treliving obviously was counting on signing them though. I also say "likely" 8 prime years, because obviously no one knows how any of these players will age. It's not something you can always predict, but just going by the norms.
He is definitely not generational talent

But neither is Huberdeau. He is ahead of Huberdeau at the same age. For those who said he can’t be in the same class as Huberdeau are just delusional Flames fans
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He is definitely not generational talent

But neither is Huberdeau. He is ahead of Huberdeau at the same age. For those who said he can’t be in the same class as Huberdeau are just delusional Flames fans
Says the guy who constantly trashed him when he was on the Flames lol. (Like every other player)
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Yeah, and Feaster is STILL raked over the coals for this remark almost a decade after he left this market.
Also fair
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He is definitely not generational talent

But neither is Huberdeau. He is ahead of Huberdeau at the same age. For those who said he can’t be in the same class as Huberdeau are just delusional Flames fans
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Can a mod rename him to FlamesNotAFan05? That would be more appropriate.
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Valimaki picked up his first point tonight and was 0 +/- in a 6-2 whopping by the Sens.
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He is definitely not generational talent

But neither is Huberdeau. He is ahead of Huberdeau at the same age. For those who said he can’t be in the same class as Huberdeau are just delusional Flames fans
So predictable.
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Old 10-23-2022, 10:00 AM   #174
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Despite Johnny's hot start, I don't really find myself missing him. Chucky, on the other hand....
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Old 10-23-2022, 10:09 AM   #175
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Once Huberdeau gets going I won’t miss Johnny as much..
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Old 10-23-2022, 10:11 AM   #176
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Thought they might give Huby the C after the way he spoke since being traded. Hopefully he can get going soon but he's still got 0.8 PPG so far.
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Can a mod rename him to FlamesNotAFan05? That would be more appropriate.
We really need a survivor type vote, where every week we pick one poster to be banned.
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Columbus is last in the conference in points and points percentage.

As for Johnny, he's had two nice goals that were pretty much individual efforts (the wraparound goal and one on a breakaway pass); he probably can't wait until Laine gets back.

Meanwhile, Gudbranson is tied for last in the league with a -8. The new Blue Jacket is gunning for a green jacket it seems.
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Did the Jackets really give Gudbranson 4x4? Still shocked at that...
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He is definitely not generational talent

But neither is Huberdeau.
No one said that
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