10-20-2022, 04:18 PM
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#121
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: About 5200 Miles from the Dome
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Absolutely outstanding work by Treliving. Pretty sure that he is just setting everything up so that he can take the next year off. What's not to like about what he's done so far.
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10-20-2022, 04:24 PM
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#122
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Just when you think he’s done, he’s not done.
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10-20-2022, 04:26 PM
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#123
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NorthVan
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Another Star player, who can’t wait to get out of Calgary, walking themselves to Free Agency.
Way to go Brad
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10-20-2022, 04:26 PM
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#124
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chingas
Absolutely outstanding work by Treliving. Pretty sure that he is just setting everything up so that he can take the next year off. What's not to like about what he's done so far.
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Treliving is setting everything up so that he can get completely wasted with the Stanley Cup next off season. 
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10-20-2022, 04:51 PM
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#125
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Great signing by Brad.
Keeps Wolf in the AHL a little longer and if he forces them to make a decision, then Vladar or Markstrom can be traded.
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10-20-2022, 04:53 PM
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#126
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hell
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Great signing
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10-20-2022, 05:00 PM
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#127
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First Line Centre
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Well this was a signing that wasn't on my Vladar.
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10-20-2022, 05:07 PM
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#128
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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One of those two are being held hostage
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10-20-2022, 05:11 PM
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#129
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hell
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Originally Posted by metroneck
Another Star player, who can’t wait to get out of Calgary, walking themselves to Free Agency.
Way to go Brad
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Should have blue txt for Oiler fan takes lol
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10-20-2022, 06:08 PM
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#130
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by dino7c
"Superstar with nothing to prove"
Was a massive over statement...and being good in the AHL doesn't guarantee NHL success anyway.
He needs to prove he can do it again at least and hopefully be even better.
You also started this whole convo with Wolf to be traded now" which is also silly. Nothing wrong with a few years in the AHL
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Nothing to prove in the AHL. He was literally the best. Look at the stats of when star goalies make the nhl. Age 21 as other posters have mentioned.
So if he proves it again and is the best goalie in the league in consecutive seasons, then he can be a superstar (ahl level)?
I will re-iterate for clarity, Wolf was the very best goalie in the AHL last season. Expecting him to do that multiple seasons to be considered a start is what's silly. NOT speculating that he may be traded based on Vladars new contract.
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10-20-2022, 06:13 PM
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#131
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by the2bears
Are you implying there has to be at least one superstar goalie in the AHL? Figure out when to stop doubling down.
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Are you implying that you don't understand context? A superstar at the ahl level is pretty straight forward to understand....furthermore , wolf's season was one of the best ever in the ahl. He did it as a rookie.
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10-20-2022, 06:56 PM
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#132
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Wolf is probably not happy, but this is the safe and smart play by the Flames. We still don't know if Wolf can get it done at the NHL level with his size. Unless Vladar turns to crap his trade value after next season should be very good if they do decide to go with Wolf next season (which I doubt).
Wolf will get some games in most likely as injuries do happen.
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10-20-2022, 06:58 PM
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#133
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Vernon, BC
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I'm pretty high on Vladar, young and improving. Could definitely be a #1 one day.
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10-20-2022, 07:03 PM
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#134
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipper_3434
Are you implying that you don't understand context? A superstar at the ahl level is pretty straight forward to understand....furthermore , wolf's season was one of the best ever in the ahl. He did it as a rookie.
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Okay... then define a superstar at the AHL level, since it's so easy. Then we'll at least know your definition of one.
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10-20-2022, 07:07 PM
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#135
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by the2bears
Okay... then define a superstar at the AHL level, since it's so easy. Then we'll at least know your definition of one.
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Jfc dude.
#1 goalie in that league, not a #1 goalie, THE number one goalie. I'm not the one who brought up the term superstar, and I won't define, but if wolf isn't one, no one is.
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10-20-2022, 07:14 PM
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#136
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Burnaby
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I looked at his stats in AHL regular season last year. 8th in GAA, 4th in save percentage. Very good numbers but I wouldn’t call those superstar numbers. Yes he was the youngest there but Skinner also put up very good numbers and no one is calling him a superstar (well it’s Edmonton so likely someone is). Still when I hear the term superstar thrown around I expect top of the league stats and not just really good stats. I see little to support him being the #1 goalie. Top for his age sure but not number 1.
Last edited by Kasi; 10-20-2022 at 07:17 PM.
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10-20-2022, 07:21 PM
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#137
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Kasi
I looked at his stats in AHL regular season last year. 8th in GAA, 4th in save percentage. Very good numbers but I wouldn’t call those superstar numbers. Yes he was the youngest there but Skinner also put up very good numbers and no one is calling him a superstar (well it’s Edmonton so likely someone is). Still when I hear the term superstar thrown around I expect top of the league stats and not just really good stats. I see little to support him being the #1 goalie. Top for his age sure but not number 1.
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You should look at games played, wins, age and the ahl awards.
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10-20-2022, 07:25 PM
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#138
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Kipper_3434
You should look at games played, wins, age and the ahl awards.
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You should let it go
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10-20-2022, 07:25 PM
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#139
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Burnaby
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Game played yes he played about ten or so more than his competition. Wins well he played more games and that is not a goalie stat. Age well sure he’s young we said that already. Being young and good in the AHL is no guarantee of NHL success. See Phillips. AHL awards well it’s going to favor person with more counting stats so yeah you’ve just named 3 stats that say how much he played and that he’s young. When I look at you know actual goalie stats I don’t see numbers that stand above his competition.
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10-20-2022, 07:25 PM
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#140
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Naitix
Lol at anyone bringing up Wolf's stats after 2 games, they played what is most likely to be one of the best AHL teams this year and they got dominated + the fact that majority of Wranglers team had unremarkable camps and it showed in their first games. The amount of high quality chances Coachella Valley had was insane.
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For real. No one should be holding those two games against Wolf as proof that he can't cut it, is regressing, or whatever.
Coachella's 19-man roster that was iced against the Wranglers has close to 2000 games of collective pro experience (NHL, AHL, SHL, FEL), including over 700 NHL games. 10 of those players played in the NHL last year, including one full-time NHLer, and former Jack Adams winner, Dan Bylsma, is their head coach.
By comparison, the Wranglers' 20-man roster had close to 1200 pro games (NHL, AHL, Czech, KHL, AHL) and only 200 NHL games. 5 of those players saw NHL action least season, and Mitch Love is a sophomore pro coach.
There's a pretty stark difference between those two teams. It's impressive that the Wranglers kept things as close as it was
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