10-17-2022, 10:43 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Pronman: 2021 NHL re-draft
https://theathletic.com/3682561/2022...shared_article
Flames prospects:
20. Coronato
80. Huckins
84. Sergeev
86. Whynot
94. Stromgren
115. Beck
not ranked Ciona, Jordan
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10-17-2022, 10:45 AM
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#2
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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I think Ciona has a word to say about not being ranked.
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10-17-2022, 10:59 AM
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#3
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Honestly comparing this to actual draft results is a fools errand.
Pronman is horrible at sticking with his own pre-draft rankings and not really moving players much.
No idea how Knies is so high, or how him and Lucius rank above Coronato, who outperformed both in NCAA/WJC . Zellweger and Stankoven make sense as big movers though.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 10-17-2022 at 11:10 AM.
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10-17-2022, 11:04 AM
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#4
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#1 Goaltender
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Interesting the drop he’s made for Coronato. Thought he looked great at the World Juniors in the summer. Has his NCAA season started yet?
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10-17-2022, 11:08 AM
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#5
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
Interesting the drop he’s made for Coronato. Thought he looked great at the World Juniors in the summer. Has his NCAA season started yet?
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Doesn't look like it. I don't see stats for him or any of his teammates yet.
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10-17-2022, 11:33 AM
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#6
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Harvard's season starts Oct 28. They have 2 exhibition games on Oct 20 and 22.
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10-17-2022, 11:34 AM
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#7
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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Our drafting hasn't been as strong the past few years as opposed to the years when we were regularly uncovering gems outside of the first round (Anderson, Kylington, Mangiapane, Dube, Fox, Ruzicka, Phillips, etc.)
Stromgren and Kuznetsov sting in particular.
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10-17-2022, 11:38 AM
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#8
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Kuznetsov will be fine, he's going to take another year or 2 but IMO has a lot of upside as a large stay at home D. Stromgren... well, he's playing in the SHL now at least. Boltmann another strange 2nd rounder.
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10-17-2022, 11:40 AM
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#9
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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What is the point t of doing a redraft after only a year?
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10-17-2022, 11:44 AM
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#10
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
What is the point t of doing a redraft after only a year?
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To generate content. 
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10-17-2022, 12:15 PM
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#11
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Kuznetsov will be fine, he's going to take another year or 2 but IMO has a lot of upside as a large stay at home D. Stromgren... well, he's playing in the SHL now at least. Boltmann another strange 2nd rounder.
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Boltmann was a 3rd rounder.
But strange none the less.
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10-17-2022, 12:17 PM
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#12
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
What is the point t of doing a redraft after only a year?
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They have now actually played some hockey in front of some people?
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10-17-2022, 03:23 PM
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#13
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
They have now actually played some hockey in front of some people?
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It could be completely different in 6 months though
Concept of redrafts I really like as an article, but you need 3 years, probably closer to 5, to get a real picture of how the draft has turned out
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10-17-2022, 03:57 PM
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#14
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Honestly comparing this to actual draft results is a fools errand.
Pronman is horrible at sticking with his own pre-draft rankings and not really moving players much.
No idea how Knies is so high, or how him and Lucius rank above Coronato, who outperformed both in NCAA/WJC . Zellweger and Stankoven make sense as big movers though.
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Had Pronman at "Hello".
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10-17-2022, 04:01 PM
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#15
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D as in David
Had Pronman at "Hello".
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Yeah those two should have went higher in their draft year too, so not that surprising.
Had WHL played that season both are likely mid-late first rounders based on their d-1 production, but size + not playing that year made them drop.
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10-17-2022, 06:18 PM
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#16
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
What is the point t of doing a redraft after only a year?
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The point is that it's a look at how things stand after the prospects' D+1 years. Obviously it's not a final assessment, but it's not intended to be either.
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10-17-2022, 06:26 PM
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#17
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
They have now actually played some hockey in front of some people?
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Only 10 have and of them, all but 2 are below 15 games.
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10-18-2022, 01:36 PM
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#18
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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Following up on the 2021 redraft, the Athletic has posted a 2020 redraft.
https://theathletic.com/3683874/2022...0-nhl-redraft/
Flames prospects:
23. Zary (24)
79. Poirier (72)
106. Kerins (174)
115. Heineman (43) - Traded
117. Francis (143) - not signed
Not ranked: Kuznetsov (50), Boltmann (80), Chechelev (96), Solovyov (205)
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10-18-2022, 01:40 PM
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#19
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkhouser
Following up on the 2021 redraft, the Athletic has posted a 2020 redraft.
https://theathletic.com/3683874/2022...0-nhl-redraft/
Flames prospects:
23. Zary (24)
79. Poirier (72)
106. Kerins (174)
115. Heineman (43) - Traded
117. Francis (143) - not signed
Not ranked: Kuznetsov (50), Boltmann (80), Chechelev (96), Solovyov (205) |
Flames sold high on Heineman.
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10-18-2022, 03:19 PM
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#20
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Franchise Player
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Better than selling low and Lowneman.
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