Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

This is false. He's inept with health care but Ontario will flip from Conservative to Liberal if he tries to privatize it.

The difference between Alberta and other provinces is that they all will boot out the party in charge when they don't like them. Alberta has yet to prove they will do that unless the Conservative side splits. There are no guard rails for the UCP in Alberta right now.

I’ll give you the second paragraph. But he’s a loser, and he’s doing damage. Developments in his riding of Muskoka are accelerating where previously declined due to environmental concerns.

[jayswin]

Lol, freedom rally in southwood beside the no frills. So far just a couple cop cars watching over. Looks like Smith is emboldening the morons to come out again.

"Freedom isn't free, be prepared". Guy looks like he couldn't lift a bag of groceries to the van.

[Muta]

There were 'freedom' protestors at the corner of 4th Street in Mission on Monday. I pointed at them from the liquor store and told the cashier that there's more flags in that group than combined brain cells, and everyone in line laughed. It's too easy.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Macman

Like I said, let’s see what the new premier does and how and what effects it will have. She’s already replacing Dr. Hinshaw so let’s see what happens. She also has a new plan for Alberta to keep carbon tax credits/money.

Alberta is also a very diverse province, even when you go out to rural areas. Alberta is a vast place with many different people and it’s intertwined with urban areas more than some may think.

That's not what I asked. I asked what would be unacceptable.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by Macman

Like I said, let’s see what the new premier does and how and what effects it will have. She’s already replacing Dr. Hinshaw so let’s see what happens.



Alberta is also a very diverse province, even when you go out to rural areas. Alberta is a vast place with many different people and it’s intertwined with urban areas more than some may think.

On replacing Dr Hinshaw, you say this like it's a good thing. It's not. It's a dog whistle for her freedumb idiots.

On Alberta being diverse, what's your point?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

This is false. He's inept with health care but Ontario will flip from Conservative to Liberal if he tries to privatize it.

The difference between Alberta and other provinces is that they all will boot out the party in charge when they don't like them. Alberta has yet to prove they will do that unless the Conservative side splits. There are no guard rails for the UCP in Alberta right now.

It’s not false. He wants to privatize health care and just got re-elected. They might flip if he does but then it’s too late.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by SebC

Dentoman is a dentist. He's talking about the fee structure.

I'll admit I don't know the background on that particular complaint.

I assume the capped the costs that dentists somehow?

[stazzy33]

Originally Posted by #-3

I'll admit I don't know the background on that particular complaint.

I assume the capped the costs that dentists somehow?

From the ADA Website:

The Dental Fee Guides are a helpful tool to increase transparency of dental costs and procedures. The Fee Guide is a recommended guide and not a mandatory fee structure. Dentists set the fees they charge on services based on their individual dental practice. The Fee Guide can help you compare prices so you can choose the dentist that works best for you.

Disclaimer: This may not cover your specific treatment needs or the actual cost of your care. Dentists determine their own treatment fees for the services they provide. Talk to your dentist for more details on your treatment options and any associated costs.

[Macman]

Originally Posted by chedder

On replacing Dr Hinshaw, you say this like it's a good thing. It's not. It's a dog whistle for her freedumb idiots.

On Alberta being diverse, what's your point?

That Alberta isn’t all white and conservative and that a lot of these same people still vote for the UCP.

[AFireInside]

I for one can't wait for Danielle Smith to try and pass a voucher system for schooling in Alberta. If people think the carbon tax is expensive, wait until they have to pay for private schooling.

Private schools shouldn't get any public money, or at the very least should get far less than they do in Alberta.

[malcolmk14]

The University prepatory private schools are the smallest problem with voucher systems - although I agree they should not receive public funds at all... Just wait till Cletus from Hughenden, Alberta wants to start his own religious charter school and rounds up 10 of the neighbourhood kids to join and gets $120,000 a year for doing so, with absolutely no oversight.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Macman

Like I said, let’s see what the new premier does and how and what effects it will have. She’s already replacing Dr. Hinshaw so let’s see what happens. She also has a new plan for Alberta to keep carbon tax credits/money.

Alberta is also a very diverse province, even when you go out to rural areas. Alberta is a vast place with many different people and it’s intertwined with urban areas more than some may think.

Did you give the NDP this kind of patience and leeway?

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Lol, freedom rally in southwood beside the no frills. So far just a couple cop cars watching over. Looks like Smith is emboldening the morons to come out again.

"Freedom isn't free, be prepared". Guy looks like he couldn't lift a bag of groceries to the van.

That’s on my way home from work and you got me all excited to stop by and ask them to explain their views to me but by the time I was in the area it was over.

Saw the van driving a little further down on Southland though

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Lol, freedom rally in southwood beside the no frills. So far just a couple cop cars watching over. Looks like Smith is emboldening the morons to come out again.

"Freedom isn't free, be prepared". Guy looks like he couldn't lift a bag of groceries to the van.

They were all over the intersection of Memorial Drive and 10th st NW last Friday night.

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Lol, freedom rally in southwood beside the no frills. So far just a couple cop cars watching over. Looks like Smith is emboldening the morons to come out again.

"Freedom isn't free, be prepared". Guy looks like he couldn't lift a bag of groceries to the van.

Yuck, too close to home, but I guess they can get their protest supplies at Dollarama so...

[you&me]

Originally Posted by AFireInside

I for one can't wait for Danielle Smith to try and pass a voucher system for schooling in Alberta. If people think the carbon tax is expensive, wait until they have to pay for private schooling.

Private schools shouldn't get any public money, or at the very least should get far less than they do in Alberta.

???

Danielle Smith was most recently advocating following the model being deployed in Arizona, whereby each student gets the same funding (voucher) regardless of what type of school they attend, including private.

As it stands, private school students in Alberta get 70% of the funding that public and Catholic board students receive (~$7500 vs. ~$11,000 per student)

If anything, under Smith, either public school students will see less funding, or private school students will see more (unlikely)... At the end of the day, her plan for a voucher system means equal funding for all students... that doesn't seem fair.

[RedHot25]

Well, this is reassuring.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1581034156993413120

Outside of some, thoughts on vaccinations, declaring an Alberta only international border at Coutts, etc etc, some highlights include:

Except if you listen to what Smith has been telling her supporters on Locals.com for months, it starts to feel like she was really into trivializing the discrimination faced by minority communities.

Take one post Smith made in May.

Yesterday I met a self described Liberal woman, late Millennial or early Gen X who joined a freedom group because - having a black grandfather who grew up in segregated Alabama - she was appalled by our government’s policies segregating the unvaxxed.

Worried that people may not have caught her point, she reiterated it on a livestream not long after:

Her grandfather was in Alabama during segregation, and she's appalled that we are now in a position led by the mostly progressive voices, saying that we should be segregating and discriminating against unvaccinated people. So it's outrageous.

Smith had plenty of room in her media diet for Russian disinformation. In March of 2022 she glowingly posted a Tucker Carlson clip — which, as I’ve written in the past, was fully cribbed from a QAnon influencer and the Russian defence ministry.

She also posted nonsense from the conspiracy-laden Centre for Research on Globalization — which often posts about chemtrails, 9/11 conspiracy theories, and has been ID’d by NATO as a Russian propaganda clearing house.

She posted glowingly about Dinesh D’Souza’s bat#### “documentary” 2000 Mules, which claims to prove Donald Trump’s election lies. (It does not.) Smith endorsed the movie with a “Wowza.” and wrote that if it were not for “vote trafficking,” Trump would have won.

[Fuzz]

What a ####ing moron. Macman's gonna give her a chance, though. Just in case she isn't exactly who she is telling us she is.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by you&me

???

Danielle Smith was most recently advocating following the model being deployed in Arizona, whereby each student gets the same funding (voucher) regardless of what type of school they attend, including private.

As it stands, private school students in Alberta get 70% of the funding that public and Catholic board students receive (~$7500 vs. ~$11,000 per student)

If anything, under Smith, either public school students will see less funding, or private school students will see more (unlikely)... At the end of the day, her plan for a voucher system means equal funding for all students... that doesn't seem fair.

You know, private school students are some of the most financially discriminated upon people she has ever met. It's a travesty.

[Dion]

Alberta's decided voters split between support for UCP, NDP: Poll

A new poll suggests Alberta’s UCP and NDP are neck-and-neck in their popularity amongst Alberta's decided voters ahead of next year’s general election.

The poll from Leger, released on Friday, surveyed 1,000 Albertans aged 18 and older from Oct. 7 to 10.

It indicates a near-equal proportion of decided voters would vote for the NDP (44 per cent) or the UCP (42 per cent).

However, a large gap remains in terms if who Albertans think would be best suited as premier, with NDP Leader Rachel Notley receiving 36 per cent of support, compared to Premier Danielle Smith at 22 per cent.

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/alberta-s...poll-1.6109338