If I had to guess, I think it's the arrow throwing people off. People are used to being able to turn on reds, people are used to following arrows, so in their minds a red arrow should mean 'Go this way' but in this case it doesn't. You definitely need the sign to explain it, which tbf, it does quite clearly. But thinking of how bad the average driver is, I can see why that would be a mess
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The problem is that unless you happen upon the intersection while it's in the "red right arrow" phase it's not entirely clear that there is a separate signal that prohibits right turns, and right turns on the solid red are permitted. The first time I drove through this I presumed it was a double-red—like at a left turn—wherein the lower red lamp was burnt out or malfunctioning.
Of course once you're through and you've seen a complete cycle of these lights the no-right-turn-on-red-arrow pictogram makes perfect sense, but it's an incredibly unusual traffic light. It should surprise no one that most people who approach it presume it means "no right on red".
The superimposed board ads during the Kings/Knights game, they've gone full on this season, no longer a single ad or a small section of the boards but the entire length from blue line to goal line.
It's so distracting, flashing and changing during play. It's horrendous.
Filthy greedy whores.
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Yeah I was thinking this as well. That would make way more sense. There's one of those on MacLeod and 5th Ave iirc
You're right on the MacLeod and 5th light. I knew there was one somewhere and that I've seen it recently but I had no idea where. That sign is the perfect option in this situation.
No, the problem is that once again we have let cyclists completely screw with very straightforward traffic laws.
Keep your heads up you Bi-wheeled menaces and take agency for your own safety! Cars are going to turn here, watch out!
Nah, it's the motorists that are idiots, just look at the traffic circles, there are straight forward rules for them that work perfect in Europe. We introduce them here and we have to have individual rules for each traffic circle because people cant figure them out
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It is really not that hard to understand, it is just like every other traffic sign where the condition follows the instruction. Read the sign top to bottom.
NO RIGHT TURN
[when]
RED ARROW DISPLAYED
END OF F—KING SIGN. That’s it. No right turns when the red arrow is shown. No red arrow? Then TURN, you dickwhistles.
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What gets me is how many people don't understand that you still need to stop at a red light, even if you are turning right. You must stop AT THE STOP LINE, and then you may turn right if it is safe to do so. That means stop at the stop line, then look for pedestrians, and then proceed if safe. If you cannot see from the stop line, still stop and the stop line, then inch forward to where you can see. The number of people that blast right through the stop line blows my mind. There is a bad corner where my daughter walks to school and a lot of cars don't even start to slow down until they are on top of the crosswalk. It makes my blood boil.
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I think a part of the problem is just introducing a whole new light / signal. I've been driving for 20 years and never seen a 'Red Arrow'. How do I know that it's literally a Red Arrow light that's going to appear in that spot? Until I've actually seen it I have no idea WTF that sign means.
I think a part of the problem is just introducing a whole new light / signal. I've been driving for 20 years and never seen a 'Red Arrow'. How do I know that it's literally a Red Arrow light that's going to appear in that spot? Until I've actually seen it I have no idea WTF that sign means.
Funny you mention that, it isn't even listed as an option on the government site.
I think a part of the problem is just introducing a whole new light / signal. I've been driving for 20 years and never seen a 'Red Arrow'. How do I know that it's literally a Red Arrow light that's going to appear in that spot? Until I've actually seen it I have no idea WTF that sign means.
The sign is pretty contextual and is more clear when you're actually at the intersection, where you see the bike lane, etc.
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