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Old 10-07-2022, 12:27 PM   #181
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great cap hit! we'll take it!
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:27 PM   #182
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Real talk tho. I wonder how much this off-season changes how GMs operate. Tree introduced the league to the first ever sign and trade, and had his two best superstars leave while still coming out on top.

Have to think other GMs now look at all this the next time they’re in a similar situation with a UFA and/or RFA superstar who’s taking their time making a decision (or just flat out says they’re not signing).
Treliving showed how sometime taking on risk and how to exploit GM's who over value team control and age can help build a team real quick.

Next off-season the Flames have all of their top 9 forwards plus 1 signed, all of their top 6 dmen signed plus 1 and their #1 goalie signed and have around $3.5 mil cap space next year. Not bad with all the new deals kicking in.

League min is $775k next year and he had Gilbert and Ruzicka with a cap hit at $762k. Not a big deal but this shows he always thinking of ways to manage his cap.
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:28 PM   #183
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1578438395294281728

Love this scene lol.
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:28 PM   #184
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weegs @ 6.25 >> nurse @ 9.25
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:31 PM   #185
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weegs @ 6.25 >> nurse @ 9.25
Weegs @ 9.25 >>> Nurse @ 9.25 lol
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:34 PM   #186
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Source says they agreed to the terms last night. Sounding like 8x6.25 is the number
Sounds like Weegar got Wined, Dined, and 8x6.25d
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:36 PM   #188
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:38 PM   #189
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so what is being reported so far:

23/24: $4.25 mil Salary + $2 mil signing bonus full NTC
24/25: $4.25 mil Salary + $2 mil signing bonus full NTC
25/26: $4.25 mil Salary + $2 mil signing bonus full NTC
26/27: $4.25 mil Salary + $2 mil signing bonus full NTC
27/28: $6.25 mil Salary modified NTC
28/29: $6.25 mil Salary modified NTC
29/30: $6.25 mil Salary modified NTC
30/31:$6.25 mil Salary modified NTC
That contract structure is excellent, nice to see some sanity again. As much as we all hate buyouts at least it is an option here (as well as Kadri) if things go bad in the later years of the contract.
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:38 PM   #190
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Love this scene lol.
Peak television right there. The one-handed sandwich shot kills me every time.
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:40 PM   #191
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This trade was the biggest blockbuster of the cap era. 3 players all signing max term deals $50M, $76M, $84M deals. The Flames use the draft pick acquired in the deal to free up the space to sign the second best free agent available after losing the top free agent. Still such a shocking summer. Really glad to have this new core locked up
On top of that the cap is expected to go up in the next few seasons, which will make those deals look even better as they'll be even less of a total percentage of the total cap.
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It's funny how we see this as a juicy contract in the Flames' favor, but I think it's a really fair deal.

From Weegar's point of view, he came from being a 7th rounder, late bloomer, averaging 55 games per season for 4 years until last year's 80 games where he had a huge season.

He's turned that into a $50mm contract with trade protection and stability that pays him until he's 37.

Congrats to him. You can see why he is gushing. So glad to have this stud on our blueline for years.
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:43 PM   #193
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So Tkachuk on an expiring contract where he would have left in a year for nothing for:

9 years of Huberdeau
9 years of Weegar
1st round pick that got us 7 years of Kadri
and Cole Schwindt

HOLY CRAP
Ah yes! But this isnt strictly true and that is important and worth noting.

Tkachuk was not traded on an expiring contract, it was genuinely a 'Sign and Trade.'

Florida got a 24 year old Tkachuk on an 8-year deal. Thats where the value came in.

Calgary were the only ones who could offer him 8 years so we signed him and then we traded him to Florida.
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:46 PM   #194
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He seems like a really humble, down-to-earth guy. Happy for him, and so happy that he chose Calgary. Not only has the maturity level of the locker room changed, but character level too. Great day!
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:46 PM   #195
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Treliving showed how sometime taking on risk and how to exploit GM's who over value team control and age can help build a team real quick.

Next off-season the Flames have all of their top 9 forwards plus 1 signed, all of their top 6 dmen signed plus 1 and their #1 goalie signed and have around $3.5 mil cap space next year. Not bad with all the new deals kicking in.

League min is $775k next year and he had Gilbert and Ruzicka with a cap hit at $762k. Not a big deal but this shows he always thinking of ways to manage his cap.
By next summer we should hopefully finally see the cap start to increase again, no?
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:48 PM   #196
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so much for "wont negotiate during season" rumor YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
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On top of that the cap is expected to go up in the next few seasons, which will make those deals look even better as they'll be even less of a total percentage of the total cap.
Imagine how good the team would be if they can add a Tarasenko, Pastrnak, Larkin, etc..
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:49 PM   #198
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Thank god Tre wasn't part of the Arena negotiations.

Tax Payers would have to pay 100% of the building plus add in a private jet!
Back in his days running a minor hockey league, Treliving helped a number of teams negotiate new arena deals. What you say is… pretty accurate.

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Next time the team is in a jam and needs to make roster changes, I want to hear Treliving say, ‘Break out Lucille!’
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:50 PM   #199
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so much for "wont negotiate during season" rumor YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
Technically, the season started today about 50 minutes ago?

Maybe this was his sly way of announcing that a trade was being done "before the season", which is technically true.
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How a lot of Flames felt earlier this offseason lol. What a turnaround
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