Hockey Canada, CHL settle lawsuit over alleged sexual assault involving WJ players

[Jordan!]

Originally Posted by 3thirty

Didn't McDavid already offer support of Hockey Canada.

“I’m very proud to be Canadian, very proud to represent Hockey Canada … obviously a situation that is terrible for everybody.”

https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/...-filled-summer

Hockey players are 95% dumb as rocks so this isn't surprising

[calf]

The executive and BoD have a fiduciary duty to the Hockey Canada organization and to its stakeholders.

Their mission is here: https://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/co...andate-mission

In no way shape or form does settling lawsuits against players come into play. It makes no sense why that organization would step in and defend the players for their crimes and misconduct.

If I was paying dues to the organization or a sponsor finding out where money that should have been directed towards achieving this mission was for settling these lawsuits? Damn right I'd be pissed.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I fully expect this to happen.

I don't

[Goriders]

Ok. So if hockey canada fires their head guy and puts someone else in his place 18 and 19 year old boys will never try to have sex again after going to the bar.

I just don’t see how they are actually going to accomplish anything beyond finding a scapegoat.

It’s nice to say the world will be a different place. Don’t think it’s the reality though. To think that the head of hockey canada can change sexual activity in the general population is a bit of a stretch.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Ok. So if hockey canada fires their head guy and puts someone else in his place 18 and 19 year old boys will never try to have sex again after going to the bar.

I just don’t see how they are actually going to accomplish anything beyond finding a scapegoat.

It’s nice to say the world will be a different place. Don’t think it’s the reality though. To think that the head of hockey canada can change sexual activity in the general population is a bit of a stretch.

Have you not been paying attention? The organization has protected and covered up for boys who committed sexual assaults. New leadership should have the integrity to NOT protect criminals, no matter how good they are at skatey-punchy.

No one is saying getting a new HC President will turn these junior players into altar boys, and that's not the point.

However, maybe new leadership could also introduce a harassment and abuse training module for all young men within their organization. Wouldn't hurt.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by calf

The executive and BoD have a fiduciary duty to the Hockey Canada organization and to its stakeholders.

Their mission is here: https://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/co...andate-mission

In no way shape or form does settling lawsuits against players come into play. It makes no sense why that organization would step in and defend the players for their crimes and misconduct.

If I was paying dues to the organization or a sponsor finding out where money that should have been directed towards achieving this mission was for settling these lawsuits? Damn right I'd be pissed.

Think the lesson learned is to let the police handle the perpetrators and don’t shelter them. But per above I’m guessing the settlement came about because hockey canada was going to be sued. At which point they are attached and it’s not just the individual players.

[Ashasx]

I don't think people expect Hockey Canada to change how young adults act, but they do expect the organization to note hide and pay off accusations of sexual assault using minor hockey funding.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I fully expect this to happen.

Well it hasn't happened yet. At all.

[MacDaddy77]

At this point firing the CEO of HC is scapegoating. The entire thing needs to be burnt from the ground and re-established with significant oversight on the spending.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Ok. So if hockey canada fires their head guy and puts someone else in his place 18 and 19 year old boys will never try to have sex again after going to the bar.

I just don’t see how they are actually going to accomplish anything beyond finding a scapegoat.

It’s nice to say the world will be a different place. Don’t think it’s the reality though. To think that the head of hockey canada can change sexual activity in the general population is a bit of a stretch.

Who ever said that replacing the leadership at H.C. would result in less sexual assault? If you think that is what people are expecting, you are being obtuse. Given your track record on this site, I would assume you are just trolling.

The point is, H.C. should not be acting as a shield for these assaults; to settle lawsuits quietly on their behalf ensures that (1) there are no consequences for the perpetrators of the assault, and (2) no future events of this kind are discouraged.

No one suggesting that H.C. act as judge and jury either, but they could ensure that the perpetrators are publicly implicated in any legal proceedings, and suspend or ban them from future H.C. activities so at least there is some incentive for players to not engage in this type of activity (although some surely will continue to do so)

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Think the lesson learned is to let the police handle the perpetrators and don’t shelter them. But per above I’m guessing the settlement came about because hockey canada was going to be sued. At which point they are attached and it’s not just the individual players.

They were sued along with all the players. You can settle without settling on behalf of everyone. It happens all the time.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

At this point firing the CEO of HC is scapegoating. The entire thing needs to be burnt from the ground and re-established with significant oversight on the spending.

It is scapegoating if they replace the CEO with another of the old boy and nothing changes. It would not be scapegoating, if the CEO is held accountable for the toxic environment created (or perhaps sustained) under his leadership. I was really disappointed in what Skinner said. It sounds like almost everyone needs to be turfed and to start over again, if there isn't more accountability and leadership on this issue.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Ok. So if hockey canada fires their head guy and puts someone else in his place 18 and 19 year old boys will never try to have sex again after going to the bar.

I just don’t see how they are actually going to accomplish anything beyond finding a scapegoat.

It’s nice to say the world will be a different place. Don’t think it’s the reality though. To think that the head of hockey canada can change sexual activity in the general population is a bit of a stretch.

Holy crap you're out to lunch on this.

1) This isn't guys trying to have sex. This is guys COMMITTING SEXUAL ASSAULT. Those are 2 very different things

2) No one is saying Hockey Canada forced these guys to commit crimes, but they sure as hell covered them up. Though there is also the argument to be made that a culture of treating sexual assault the same as teenagers just trying to get laid likely contributed to the number of assaults these players were committing.

3) Can Hockey Canada change the way people act? Well yeah, by making it clear that this type of crime won't be acceptable, and they won't cover for you. You assault someone, you're out, PERIOD. A lack of consequences, as they've previously shown to be in favour of, is a pretty terrible way to prevent someone from acting poorly. Second, even if the above wasn't true, Hockey Canada sure as hell can change the way they act.

[Monahammer]

How is it possible that Goriders still doesn't understand this? Are you on the HC board, Goriders? Lol Are you Kirk Lamb?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

What would also help is if prominent NHLers came out and said they will no longer play for Team Canada under the current leadership and structure of Hockey Canada.

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I fully expect this to happen.

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

I don't

Yeah my expectations for the very players who perpetrated these crimes, and who were part of the organization and broken system that enabled them, to come out against that same system are pretty low.

Even if the number of players in the system who committed sexual assault are a very small percentage, we all know the NHLPA and hockey culture in general have the same attitude as other "brotherhoods" like the police unions. They value codes of silence and anyone who speaks out is considered a traitor and a rat.

Many of these players have benefited from being put on a pedestal their entire lives. They've experienced privilege that few get to experience and from a very young age, where typical social standards and the law itself almost don't apply to them at all. Who would want to speak out against a system that gives them so much power?

I expect very few if any players will do anything but offer bland and noncommittal statements that are carefully worded. They won't take any real action.

I'm happy to be proven wrong.

[Cole436]

I haven’t seen it posted yet, but big movement this morning.

Everyone is following Tim Hortons lead. Telus and Scotiabank have paused funding for the 2022-23 season and Canadian Tire has permanently ended their relationship with HC.

Burn them where it hurts.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Ok. So if hockey canada fires their head guy and puts someone else in his place 18 and 19 year old boys will never try to have sex again after going to the bar.

I just don’t see how they are actually going to accomplish anything beyond finding a scapegoat.

It’s nice to say the world will be a different place. Don’t think it’s the reality though. To think that the head of hockey canada can change sexual activity in the general population is a bit of a stretch.

For the first time I realize that Donald Trump is a part of Calgarypuck.

Your posts on this subject may be the most cringe worthy I've ever seen on Calgarypuck.

Yet you keep doubling down as you get dealt worse hands.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

For the first time I realize that Donald Trump is a part of Calgarypuck.

Your posts on this subject may be the most cringe worthy I've ever seen on Calgarypuck.

Yet you keep doubling down as you get dealt worse hands.

I think he is just a clueless D-Bag

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Yeah my expectations for the very players who perpetrated these crimes, and who were part of the organization and broken system that enabled them, to come out against that same system are pretty low.

Even if the number of players in the system who committed sexual assault are a very small percentage, we all know the NHLPA and hockey culture in general have the same attitude as other "brotherhoods" like the police unions. They value codes of silence and anyone who speaks out is considered a traitor and a rat.

Many of these players have benefited from being put on a pedestal their entire lives. They've experienced privilege that few get to experience and from a very young age, where typical social standards and the law itself almost don't apply to them at all. Who would want to speak out against a system that gives them so much power?

I expect very few if any players will do anything but offer bland and noncommittal statements that are carefully worded. They won't take any real action.

I'm happy to be proven wrong.

I think the tide is finally turning. But I guess we'll see.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I think the tide is finally turning. But I guess we'll see.

The only way that happens is if its rats off a sinking ship.