10-06-2022, 05:42 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Probably because he isn't a premier young star. 1 good year and 1 ok covid season.
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Yeah, he is.
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10-06-2022, 06:17 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jg13
I think this is a great deal for the player and a decent deal for the Stars.
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Hard disagree.
This is an insanely good deal for the Stars.
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10-06-2022, 07:19 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
Hard disagree.
This is an insanely good deal for the Stars.
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Hard to call it "insanely" good when they've handed Robertson all the leverage to his UFA years. Plus already paying him close to $8M per season for his pre-UFA years.
Much like Tkachuk, the team could not afford the AAV of going 8 years and covering a number of UFA years and locking him up for his prime years.
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10-06-2022, 07:28 AM
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#24
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Definitely Tkachuk-esque, but it's a 4 year deal. So obviously it depends how the 4 years go. If he continues to be an elite forward and the team isn't good it might end the same way, but he's American so it's not like he has a particular reason to want to leave.
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10-06-2022, 07:30 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Dangerous contract for them. I suppose they figure in 4 years Benn and Sutter will be off the books, but they will still have a couple years of Seguin at $9.85. Plus Marchment, Lindell and Oettinger all come up at roughly the same time.
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10-06-2022, 07:51 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Good deal for Robertson.
He should outperform that contract.
Dallas doesn't have any issues with retaining players so the length shouldn't be a big concern either.
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10-06-2022, 08:52 AM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
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Ya, thats about what Tofolli cost.
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10-06-2022, 08:56 AM
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#29
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Good AAV for the Stars given what he brings. It does walk him to free agency which is a risk, but they have kicked the can down the road, to deal with it in 4 years.
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10-06-2022, 09:00 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
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It also immediately gets matched.
A team should have offered a 5 x $8.4M offer sheet though. Walks him right to UFA, only a 1st, 2nd, 3rd for compensation, and puts the Stars in tough situation cap wise as I'm not sure they could actually fit that in.
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10-06-2022, 09:04 AM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
It also immediately gets matched.
A team should have offered a 5 x $8.4M offer sheet though. Walks him right to UFA, only a 1st, 2nd, 3rd for compensation, and puts the Stars in tough situation cap wise as I'm not sure they could actually fit that in.
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They would have matched and figured it out later.
It's only $0.65M more than he got. They were losing him for that.
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10-06-2022, 09:15 AM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I like Robertson, but he sure disappeared against Calgary in the POs. 1 goal and 4 points but he sure wasn't noticeable.
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10-06-2022, 09:16 AM
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#33
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Didn’t realize he would still be an RFA. Great deal by the Stars, then
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10-06-2022, 09:21 AM
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#34
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Crash and Bang Winger
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That is where Treliving messed up. The Tkachuk deal had to be qualified at 9mil at the end of it instead of having it be a 7 mil QO. Good cap hit but a high QO offer at the end of it.
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10-06-2022, 09:25 AM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaming Horse
That is where Treliving messed up. The Tkachuk deal had to be qualified at 9mil at the end of it instead of having it be a 7 mil QO. Good cap hit but a high QO offer at the end of it.
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well, in the end the amount of the QO didn't matter. Tkachuk is at least a $9 million player.
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10-06-2022, 09:45 AM
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#36
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
well, in the end the amount of the QO didn't matter. Tkachuk is at least a $9 million player.
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If you are paying guys 9 or 9 plus to be your core they better show up and produce in the playoffs.
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10-06-2022, 09:46 AM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by agulati
Didn’t realize he would still be an RFA. Great deal by the Stars, then
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And RFA, but in the same position as Tkachuk - huge QO and basically calling his shot for the remaining year.
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10-06-2022, 09:46 AM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I like Robertson, but he sure disappeared against Calgary in the POs. 1 goal and 4 points but he sure wasn't noticeable.
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The checking and goaltending in that series was…pretty good.
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10-06-2022, 09:47 AM
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#39
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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I think this is very much like the Tkachuk negotiation. People were screaming for Tre's head, but in the end it was a deal that the Flames could fit under the cap, and Tkachuk was full value for the contract and the QO. I could see Robertson having the same impact, but with a smaller chance of bouncing (although that chance still remains).
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10-06-2022, 09:48 AM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I like Robertson, but he sure disappeared against Calgary in the POs. 1 goal and 4 points but he sure wasn't noticeable.
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Yeah he was playoffs Tkachuk-like quiet in the first round series vs the Flames.
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