Edmonton is No Good X: Up and Down Like a Toilet Seat

[Macho0978]

If they play the big 2 apart, I don't see either of their top 2 lines being that great and they will rely on the PP to score. Eventually they will resort to Leon on the top line and try to out score their opponent.

Who matches up against the top line, especially on the road? Ryan isn't great but he is reliable. Can't imagine being comfortable throwing out Mcleod to match up against guys like Mackinnon. Our top line would eat up their checking line but Backlund has good numbers against McDavid in his career.

This doesn't factor in how bad their d is and the questions they have in net.

IMO they are worse once the cap stuff settles in.

It will also be interesting to see how they manage minor injuries? The game time decision that aren't IR type injuries.

[topfiverecords]

Holloway will be #1 LW.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Holloway will be #1 LW.

To help with the cap I see Holloway in the AHL. So it's Benson as the first line LW....

Staples already has an article out pumping his tires

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

If they play the big 2 apart, I don't see either of their top 2 lines being that great and they will rely on the PP to score. Eventually they will resort to Leon on the top line and try to out score their opponent.

Kane-McDavid-Yamamoto had great results 5 on 5 last regular season.

http://www.naturalstattrick.com/line...9977&p4=0&p5=0

57% corsi
58% fenwick
59% shot share
65% goals for
60% expected goal for

Kane-McDavid-Puljujarvi was even better. 10GF 1GA.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Holloway will be #1 LW.

Maybe, or maybe the Oilers wreck another one.

[Erick Estrada]

Double post.

[Erick Estrada]

https://flipboard.com/article/serava...##########.com

You don't say?

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Kane-McDavid-Yamamoto had great results 5 on 5 last regular season.

http://www.naturalstattrick.com/line...9977&p4=0&p5=0

57% corsi
58% fenwick
59% shot share
65% goals for
60% expected goal for

Kane-McDavid-Puljujarvi was even better. 10GF 1GA.

Stats consistently show whoever McDavid plays with plays well. The first line will be very good yes but that 2nd line will be overrated.

Leon - Hyman - Yamamoto

47% Corsi
47% Fenwick
48% Shots
50% Goals for
48% expected goals for

That's not very good when you have one of the worst bottom 6 after guys start getting waived to make cap space.

[dino7c]

all the Kings had to do was win a period and we would be done with this Oilers/contender nonsense

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by dino7c

all the Kings had to do was win a period and we would be done with this Oilers/contender nonsense

But what if they miss this year?

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

That would make their forward group:

RNH - McDavid - Kane
Hyman - Draisaitl - Yamamoto
Foegele - Ryan/Janmark - Puljujarvi
Holloway - McLeod - Malone/McKegg

And people complain about our bottom 6, LOL

If we're being honest, their forward group really looks like this:

Draisaitl - McDavid - Kane
RNH - Draisaitl - Hyman
Foegele - McDavid - Yamamoto
Draisaitl - McDavid - Ryan/Malone/McKegg/Foegele

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

To help with the cap I see Holloway in the AHL. So it's Benson as the first line LW....

Staples already has an article out pumping his tires

How will he get an 8x$10.5 in the AHL?

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

If we're being honest, their forward group really looks like this:

Draisaitl - McDavid - Kane
RNH - Draisaitl - Hyman
Foegele - McDavid - Yamamoto
Draisaitl - McDavid - Ryan/Malone/McKegg/Foegele

Here is McDavid's top line mates in minutes last year:

Puljujarvi 626
Hyman 535
Kane 434
Draisaitl 380
Yamamoto 358
Foegele 136
Zassian 131
Nuge 79
McLeod 65
Perlini 34
Benson 23
Ryan 22

9 different forwards with at least 60 mins. Every player on the list is better with him than without. It appears coaches are struggling to find someone that plays with McDavid that makes McDavid better. Leon is the only player that really does that. This is why they always load up come playoff time

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Stats consistently show whoever McDavid plays with plays well. The first line will be very good yes but that 2nd line will be overrated.

Leon - Hyman - Yamamoto

47% Corsi
47% Fenwick
48% Shots
50% Goals for
48% expected goals for

That's not very good when you have one of the worst bottom 6 after guys start getting waived to make cap space.

Not sure who will be on the second line with Draisaitl, but last season he had 53.75% goal share away from McDavid. That's not bad. Draisaitl is one of those guys like Patrick Kane or Huberdeau that usually have mediocre possession stats, but tend to outscore the opposition anyway.

If you compare Draisail's 53.75% to other second line centers I think it compares alright. Kadri for instance had 52.56% goal share away from Mackinnon/Rantanen last year.

[activeStick]

Uh oh... Sounds like someone could make the team.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1576988625912614912

[Toonage]

Two things

1. Of course he was going to make the team. Its the Oilers. Never a doubt.
2. Woodcroft has a word of the day calendar.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Not sure who will be on the second line with Draisaitl, but last season he had 53.75% goal share away from McDavid. That's not bad. Draisaitl is one of those guys like Patrick Kane or Huberdeau that usually have mediocre possession stats, but tend to outscore the opposition anyway.

If you compare Draisail's 53.75% to other second line centers I think it compares alright. Kadri for instance had 52.56% goal share away from Mackinnon/Rantanen last year.

But some suggest that Leon is a top 5 player in the league. Some say he's better than MacKinnon or Matthews. If he's comparable to other 2nd line centers that isn't good enough for a team that has no depth.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

But some suggest that Leon is a top 5 player in the league. Some say he's better than MacKinnon or Matthews. If he's comparable to other 2nd line centers that isn't good enough for a team that has no depth.

MacKinnon and Matthews play all of their minutes with star line mates.

Should Draisaitl be expected to match their goal shares while playing with the leftovers on a team with no depth?

Its kind of a catch-22 situation you've set up.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

MacKinnon and Matthews play all of their minutes with star line mates.

Should Draisaitl be expected to match their goal shares while playing with the leftovers on a team with no depth?

Its kind of a catch-22 situation you've set up.

They have better linemates most nights but Oilers fans are selling better depth with guys like Hyman and Kane on the team. It's not like Leon is playing with Foegele and Kassian every night last year either.

All I'm saying is Leon's line is good but not great. If it's just a good line with Hyman and Yamaoto then that bottom 6 becomes a problem. If the Oilers had a good 3rd line then his line being a good 2nd line might be all that is needed with McDavid on the top line.

The Oilers lack of depth, they can't afford Leon's line to be good. They need a Malkin and Crosby scenario.

[dino7c]

Drai plays with McDavid every single game...don't let Oiler fans tell you otherwise