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[Dion]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

It is the lesser of two "evils". Not voting because I dislike the NDP, would/could help the UCP and there is no ####ing way I will help the UCP.

Didn't we help the UCP by not voting for Notley in the last election?

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Dion

I don't trust Notley as a leader of the party. She brought in a carbon tax without a mandate from voters and she pissed off farmers with Bill 6. She's like all other politicians where they don't listen to the voters. So they voted her out.

So they voted her out so that we would get stuck with the federal carbon tax instead and for the UCP to make minor amendments to the changes they implemented with bill 6? Seems kinda unlikely but it’s plausible. I kinda thought people voted them out because out of frustration from the collapse in oil and gas people somehow thought the UCP would produce better results. We all know how that ended up.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by btimbit

#### I wanted to avoid this topic since it's the gear grinder thread and not the politics thread, but I gotta ask; What principle is that?

I will not support a socialist party. End of story.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Dion

Didn't we help the UCP by not voting for Notley in the last election?

I supposed nobody conceived of how bad the UCP would be. Although, it wouldn’t take a political scientist to go back and figure it out. Kenney historically was and still is a horrible person.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I will not support a socialist party. End of story.

Oh boy, that raises more questions than it answers, but I'll leave it there

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I can vote Liberal in the next election if they can afford to run a candidate in my riding, though the party is broke and leaderless and pretty much dead.

But I can't vote for the NDP or UCP.

I kinda chuckle when people who voted for the UCP the last time around say they can’t vote for them again, as if they didn’t make what they were going to do very clear during the last campaign. The only real credit I can give to the UCP is that they followed through on what they said they were going to do, problem is that I strongly disagreed with the overwhelming majority of their policies from the outset.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

So they voted her out so that we would get stuck with the federal carbon tax instead and for the UCP to make minor amendments to the changes they implemented with bill 6? Seems kinda unlikely but it’s plausible. I kinda thought people voted them out because out of frustration from the collapse in oil and gas people somehow thought the UCP would produce better results. We all know how that ended up.

I guess the NDP will have to hope that farmers and rural Albertans have short memories.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I will not support a socialist party. End of story.

Every major party is technically a socialist party so unless you don’t ever vote for any of them I think you may just be using a fear mongering buzzword that you clearly don’t understand the meaning of.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yikes, I guess this is a gear grinder. People would rather the province be in shambles because they don't like the NDP lol.

I don't like the UCP but I will help them stay in power by voting anything but NDP.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

I kinda chuckle when people who voted for the UCP the last time around say they can’t vote for them again, as if they didn’t make what they were going to do very clear during the last campaign. The only real credit I can give to the UCP is that they followed through on what they said they were going to do, problem is that I strongly disagreed with the overwhelming majority of their policies from the outset.

Safe to say a lot of people didn't even know their policies at all, they just voted against Notley without knowing what they were voting for

I wish Greg Clark would come back to politics

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Every major party is technically a socialist party so unless you don’t ever vote for any of them I think you may just be using a fear mongering buzzword that you clearly don’t understand the meaning of.

Yes that's it clearly.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Every major party is technically a socialist party so unless you don’t ever vote for any of them I think you may just be using a fear mongering buzzword that you clearly don’t understand the meaning of.

Agreed with that ! But you still have to have a party lead ! I have no doubts “None of the above” would win the alberta election ��

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Dion

I guess the NDP will have to hope that farmers and rural Albertans have short memories.

Most farmers probably aren’t going to change their stance no matter what, the same as most business owners and investment class constituents won’t.

Just because these groups can afford to spend a lot of money lobbying the government and swaying public opinion doesn’t mean those policies were as disastrous as they’re trying to portray them as being. It’s the same old song and dance every time any policy is being implemented that costs them money.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yes that's it clearly.

You’re welcome to prove me wrong.

[MoneyGuy]

For me this is like the question: would you rather die by drowning or in a bear attack?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Dion

Didn't we help the UCP by not voting for Notley in the last election?

Not everyone knew what a complete and utter cluster#### the UCP would be.

At this point we all know or should know what ####ing mess the UCP is.

#### them.

[Roughneck]

The UCP was pretty transparent in what they were going to do and how they were going to do it.

'Here's a ####ty and generally unpopular policy to everybody except our religious base or our cronies we need to do some favors for. You're going to ignore that it's ####ty because of 'Jobs, Economy, Pipelines', and we are going to ram it through as quickly as we can without consultation because we were given a mandate and that's how we create momentum.'

And that's what they did.

[DownInFlames]

I must have missed Notley’s speech where she advocated that the workers should seize the means of production.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

For me this is like the question: would you rather die by drowning or in a bear attack?

Drowning for sure . Who would choose bear attack ?

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Yesterda, for the first time, I saw a rollerblader using the street, making their way up Centre St. That must have been fun for traffic. She was going pretty fast though, given the normal rush-hour congestion.

Originally Posted by Sainters7

People are so annoying. Downtown Calgary is connected fairly well with bike lanes, all you have to do is look at a map to see which streets have them. It's more than many probably think. I don't even rollerblade for a commute, just for fun, and I always stick to those streets. So many people just don't GAF.

Coming right out of downtown? I wonder if Centre is actually the easiest grade, the hills are brutal on the bluff and you'd have to deviate quite a bit west or east for those pathways. Still a bold move, why not stay on the sidewalk?