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Old 09-27-2022, 09:42 AM   #7901
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Somewhat related, but is there a way for Canada to sponsor some Russian refugees? Perhaps traditional political asylum could be argued?

If smart, educated Russians want to leave Russia and settle elsewhere, we should be beneficiaries of that brain drain. Pointman is what made me think of this, but I hope we're not discounting all Russians out of hand as potentially could future Canadians.

Edit: By my read, refugees from Russia should be able to claim asylum in Canada https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...athappens.html

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Old 09-27-2022, 09:51 AM   #7902
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Meanwhile in Russia, Niki nonchalantly describes how hard getting out of the country is for those partially mobilized. He genuinely thinks he is not going to be mobilized and while not 100% brainwashed you can tell how deeply rooted propaganda is hard to shake out. He even went to Georgia a few weeks ago (met NFKRZ there who smartly fled to Georgia at the start of the war) and shows how difficult it was to get in at the time...and he just drove back as if it was a normal summer vacation trip.




This comment truly describes him and a lot of Russians who unfortunately may find the hard way that you can be not interested in politics as much as you want, but politics will find you.
Has he spoken about his draft status publicly? There is some logic to who is getting drafted, after all. If he's in the "released from service due to health reasons" -category like NFKRZ, he's probably quite far down the list of people getting potentially drafted.

NFKRZ left more because he was worried he might get in trouble over his channel, Niki is extremely careful about what he says on his channel.
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This is insane.

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Old 09-27-2022, 10:47 AM   #7904
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I dunno, they are marked on nautical charts. Drop an anchor(maybe modified with more pointy bits) and start dragging.
Theoretically sure, but not a very quick or reliable method to do serious damage, or something you could do without getting caught as you would be right there on top of it when the leaks start happening.

In any case, we already know they were blown up. Explosions were big enough to register in multiple seismological survey stations.
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Theoretically sure, but not a very quick or reliable method to do serious damage, or something you could do without getting caught as you would be right there on top of it when the leaks start happening.

In any case, we already know they were blown up. Explosions were big enough to register in multiple seismological survey stations.

And apparently they are massively ruptured, not just leaking.
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Theoretically sure, but not a very quick or reliable method to do serious damage, or something you could do without getting caught as you would be right there on top of it when the leaks start happening.

In any case, we already know they were blown up. Explosions were big enough to register in multiple seismological survey stations.
The list of countries/organizations that could pull this off is pretty ####ing small.
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Old 09-27-2022, 11:11 AM   #7907
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Looking at the map and thinking about the political situation, you can't rule out Poland as a suspect.

There are four pipelines between Germany and Russia; Nordstreams 1 and 2 that are straight connections through the Baltic Sea, and two pipelines on the continent, one of which goes through Poland and the other through Czech and Slovakia (and Belarus).

If you remove the Baltic pipes from the equation, then Germany can't buy gas from Russia without either Poland or Czech+Slovakia agreeing to it, and without them also getting access to that gas. So if you blow up those sea pipes, it's no longer enough for Germany to make peace with Russia to get their precious gas.

Now, the whole thing might just be yet another Russian false flag operation that attempts to strike a wedge between various EU countries, but I wouldn't put it past the Polish. They're taking this war very seriously.
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but I wouldn't put it past the Polish. They're taking this war very seriously.
As they probably should.
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As they probably should.
Oh I absolutely agree, and Poland is going far beyond reasonable expectations in the amount of support they're giving Ukraine, which is great.

I'm also actually all for making sure that Germany doesn't try to deal separately with Russia. I was against those pipelines when they were being built, and still am. The environmental hazard element sucks though.
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Has he spoken about his draft status publicly? There is some logic to who is getting drafted, after all. If he's in the "released from service due to health reasons" -category like NFKRZ, he's probably quite far down the list of people getting potentially drafted.

NFKRZ left more because he was worried he might get in trouble over his channel, Niki is extremely careful about what he says on his channel.
He hasn't served in the military so he just simply thinks he is not part of it (his reasoning).

That's it. He is simply taking it for face value that only people who have served in the military in the past are being mobilized, when this is far from what is actually occuring (especially outside of Moscow and St Petersberg).

And health reasons doesn't matter. There's 60 years old with type 2 diabetes being found to have been mobilized. Protesters gets draft papers. Ukraine is already capturing newly mobilized Russians who were just thrown on the frontline without any training whatsoever (video today of one stating he got mobilized Sep 21)

What is said officially doesn't match what is actually occuring.

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Old 09-27-2022, 11:18 AM   #7911
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Looking at the map and thinking about the political situation, you can't rule out Poland as a suspect.

There are four pipelines between Germany and Russia; Nordstreams 1 and 2 that are straight connections through the Baltic Sea, and two pipelines on the continent, one of which goes through Poland and the other through Czech and Slovakia (and Belarus).

If you remove the Baltic pipes from the equation, then Germany can't buy gas from Russia without either Poland or Czech+Slovakia agreeing to it, and without them also getting access to that gas. So if you blow up those sea pipes, it's no longer enough for Germany to make peace with Russia to get their precious gas.

Now, the whole thing might just be yet another Russian false flag operation that attempts to strike a wedge between various EU countries, but I wouldn't put it past the Polish. They're taking this war very seriously.
This is some 5D chess sh*t and I love it.
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This is some 5D chess sh*t and I love it.
I really want to emphasize that this is all pure speculation.
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Old 09-27-2022, 11:46 AM   #7913
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Given the absolute supremacy US intelligence has displayed during the entire course (and well before) of this conflict so far, I have no doubt in my mind that the US absolutely knows who did this and why. So, if it were a US ally, likely would have had to have some sort of tacit/ understood consent on completing this action.
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Given the absolute supremacy US intelligence has displayed during the entire course (and well before) of this conflict so far, I have no doubt in my mind that the US absolutely knows who did this and why. So, if it were a US ally, likely would have had to have some sort of tacit/ understood consent on completing this action.
Absolutely. I don't think any country would act unilaterally. They might go around Germany, but I don't think anything happens without it going through the U.S. All speculation of course, but if it was Poland, I also don't think they would do anything without it going through Zelenskyy as well.
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I made it out of Russia. Apparently the hardest part was finding tickets, as everything was nearly bought out. Borders are still open. Much to my surprise I had zero issues getting through the border. I wasn't even questioned. Then I took a long journey on several shuttle trains until making to to Shymkent in the south Kazakhstan. Now I will stay in Kazakhstan for 3 weeks while my wife and two kids are preparing and gathering documents for Israeli citizenship. Then we will fly to Israeli together.
I cannot tell you how unrelentingly and unreasonably worried I was for a person I've never met. Thanks for the heads up
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Men told the army will not provide sleeping bags or any medical supplies. They have to ask their grannies to send them tourniquets or raid their cars for first aid kids. The army provides nothing but uniforms and "armor".

They are told to ask their wives and girlfriends to give them tampons and pads to plug bullet wounds
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Men told the army will not provide sleeping bags or any medical supplies. They have to ask their grannies to send them tourniquets or raid their cars for first aid kids. The army provides nothing but uniforms and "armor".

They are told to ask their wives and girlfriends to give them tampons and pads to plug bullet wounds
What a 3rd world #### hole Russia is
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Old 09-27-2022, 12:17 PM   #7918
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More on the mobilization front

https://news.yahoo.com/russians-depl...074306955.html

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Again, Pointman is very lucky he got out when he could, this is ramping up at light speed.

There is simply nothing in history I can point to, that I can use to compare the sheer lunacy and self-implosion that is Russia right now. This is also why I fear that a nuclear attack is certain with this level of lunacy present.
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Looking at the map and thinking about the political situation, you can't rule out Poland as a suspect.

There are four pipelines between Germany and Russia; Nordstreams 1 and 2 that are straight connections through the Baltic Sea, and two pipelines on the continent, one of which goes through Poland and the other through Czech and Slovakia (and Belarus).

If you remove the Baltic pipes from the equation, then Germany can't buy gas from Russia without either Poland or Czech+Slovakia agreeing to it, and without them also getting access to that gas. So if you blow up those sea pipes, it's no longer enough for Germany to make peace with Russia to get their precious gas.

Now, the whole thing might just be yet another Russian false flag operation that attempts to strike a wedge between various EU countries, but I wouldn't put it past the Polish. They're taking this war very seriously.
I don't know, it doesn't really change anything in the short term for Germany. Nord Stream 2 was never even completed and Nord Stream 1 has been inactive for a month with no signs of gas flows restarting. So the situation you're talking about already exists.
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So, funny thing. Both pipelines (nordstream 1&2) that deliver gas directly from Russia to Germany have developed leaks within hours of each other. The other actually developed two separate leaks, so the total number of leaks is three.

https://www.dw.com/en/mysterious-lea...any/a-63251217

The odds of this being random are basically zero, and the explanation seems to lean heavily towards sabotage.

It's not clear who would benefit from this and how, especially since both pipes are currently closed (although they do still have some gas in them). While Russia is naturally the first suspect, there's no obvious reason for them to do this. After all, they do want to get back to selling that gas eventually.

Since these are underwater pipes running at the bottom of the Baltic Sea, sabotaging them is far from a trivial operation, which limits the realistic options.

There are of course plenty of parties that would like to put a total stop to the gas trade between Russia and Germany, from Russian and German hawks to aggressively anti-Russian countries like Poland, but considering how damaging it would be to a country's reputation if they got caught (the leaks are a non-trivial safety hazard currently), it's kind of hard to imagine who would take such a risk.

Swedish national seismological center reports that it registered two explosions at about the right time and place for them to be possible explanations for the leaks.

Interesting sideshow in any case.
My uneducated guess is that the US is involved in this somehow. Either in doing it themselves or in leading the effort and planning to get this done...
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