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Old 09-15-2022, 04:34 PM   #521
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In the past I was pretty indifferent about Canada having a constitutional monarchy but given Price Andrew is a known pedophile, the Royal Family doesn't pay taxes in the UK, King Charles won't pay the normal inheritance tax I am fully supportive of cutting ties.
I really wish Trudeau had the balls to tell King Charles that if he wants his face on Canadian money and our continued involvement under the crown, then he has to stop sheltering his pedophile brother and let him be extradited to the US. I had always leaned towards getting rid of the monarchy in the past, but now that the brother of the King is such a despicable human being it shouldn't even be a question now. Just look at the controversies section on his Wiki, even beyond him being a rapist he's a grade A twat

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Old 09-15-2022, 04:44 PM   #523
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Nah it's bull####. Bunch of select few (government workers) get yet another benefit they don't deserve. Either every one gets it or no one should. #### the royals. Give everyone a day off after Buckingham palace gets nuked from orbit
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I really wish Trudeau had the balls to tell King Charles that if he wants his face on Canadian money and our continued involvement under the crown, then he has to stop sheltering his pedophile brother and let him be extradited to the US. I had always leaned towards getting rid of the monarchy in the past, but now that the brother of the King is such a despicable human being it shouldn't even be a question now. Just look at the controversies section on his Wiki, even beyond him being a rapist he's a grade A twat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince...ther_incidents
You know I was thinking about it more in the form of a 'Sponsorship' kind of relationship.

Yeah, we'll put your Monarch's face on our money and his name on our buildings and such, but we're no longer paying to do it. Every dime will be invoiced and billed to Buckingham Palace or 10 Downing.

Oh. And if he or his family do anything to diminish or otherwise devalue the brand we will be invoicing or suing for damages.

Lookin' at you Andrew...
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In the past I was pretty indifferent about Canada having a constitutional monarchy but given Price Andrew is a known pedophile…
I haven’t followed this thing closely, but are there credible allegations that he had sex with pre-pubescent children? Or are we using the newly-minted QAnon definition where sex with a minor = pedophilia?
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I haven’t followed this thing closely, but are there credible allegations that he had sex with pre-pubescent children? Or are we using the newly-minted QAnon definition where sex with a minor = pedophilia?
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Cliff splitting the finest of hairs.
Sex with a minor is a bad thing - immoral and in most cases illegal. But it’s not pedophilia, and was not called pedophilia by anyone until very recently, when conspiracy theorists started warning of pedophile rings everywhere.

If sex with a minor = pedophilia then three-quarters of the people in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame are pedophiles. Do you really think that’s true?
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If you're f****** stolen children who are caught up in an international, pedophilic black-mail scheme. You're a pedophile and your mom deserves to go to hell.
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Sex with a minor is a bad thing - immoral and in most cases illegal. But it’s not pedophilia, and was not called pedophilia by anyone until very recently, when conspiracy theorists started warning of pedophile rings everywhere.

If sex with a minor = pedophilia then three-quarters of the people in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame are pedophiles. Do you really think that’s true?
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the line is 14 hours long now, that's insane!
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Old 09-16-2022, 09:10 AM   #533
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Frankly I don't mind lumping him in as a pedophile. So I'll continue to call him one, especially because he aided and abetted the trafficking of young girls. Not sure why he felt the need to bring it up in this case though.

But I do think there is a difference being attracted to a 16 or 17 year old who looks like an adult, and a pre-pubescent child.

And Cliff is right about rock and roll. KISS even has a song - Christine Sixteen. It's disturbing.
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The definition of pedophilia is sex with a child, typically meaning pre-pubescent.

Sex with a minor typically means a 15-17 year old, and - physically at least - 15-17 year old girls are young women.

Still wrong, but very, very different than sex with a pre-pubescent. CF was simply asking which of those things took place?
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The definition of pedophilia is sex with a child, typically meaning pre-pubescent.

Sex with a minor typically means a 15-17 year old, and - physically at least - 15-17 year old girls are young women.

Still wrong, but very, very different than sex with a pre-pubescent. CF was simply asking which of those things took place?
Not to mention, in many places (Canada and the UK included) the age of consent is 16. So not only is it not pedophilia to have sex with a 16-17 year old, but it's not even illegal in much of the world.

Based on the allegations (at least the ones I'm aware of), Prince Andrew is a rapist and was involved in sex trafficking. Those are horrific crimes on their own; people don't need to juice it up by calling him a pedophile for having sex with a 17 year old (which is the main allegation I'm aware of).
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And Cliff is right about rock and roll. KISS even has a song - Christine Sixteen. It's disturbing.
Well the big difference is that Prince Andrew was having sex with unwilling teenagers as part of a sex trafficking ring. If '70s rock 'n' rollers were raping teenagers, then they deserve just as much blowback as Prince Andrew.
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I think a good general rule is don't #### kids and don't try to get super fine on the description on what a kid is. If it takes more than a second to clarify whether or not it's legal and moral, then that's a kid.
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I must have missed this part.

The Nazis did kill Hitler, so there's that.
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I think a good general rule is don't #### kids and don't try to get super fine on the description on what a kid is. If it takes more than a second to clarify whether or not it's legal and moral, then that's a kid.
And it's just as gross that grown-men are salivating over 17 year-olds and can't wait for them to turn 18. Like the only thing preventing them from being dirt bags is the law.
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