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Old 09-14-2022, 11:04 AM   #7441
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No.

It's not just that Finland doesn't have an army that could do that, not without mobilization, nor does Poland especially now that they've donated so much equipment to Ukraine.

(Poland has been the main source of tanks for Ukraine so far.)

Nor is there any real interest. Sure we like to dream about it, but it's not serious.
No I'm not suggesting that it would be because of Finland or Poland, I just mean when the home guard unit is destroyed, they pulled units back to Moscow. Just from a general defense standpoint.
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Old 09-14-2022, 11:34 AM   #7442
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No I'm not suggesting that it would be because of Finland or Poland, I just mean when the home guard unit is destroyed, they pulled units back to Moscow. Just from a general defense standpoint.
Considering that unit was part of the first attack on Ukraine and so has been out of the Moscow area for longer than the war has lasted, I doubt these things are connected.

If there is non-logistical reason, it would be to prepare for and prevent possible internal unrest.
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Old 09-14-2022, 03:26 PM   #7443
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Seems personal…

https://twitter.com/user/status/1570094755958210561

https://twitter.com/user/status/1570149818282004480

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Old 09-14-2022, 03:33 PM   #7444
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Old 09-14-2022, 04:11 PM   #7445
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This is just so sad. It serves no purpose other than to cause pointless destructions and suffering and harden everyone even further against Russia.

It's also just a waste of limited military resources.
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Head of Luhansk People Republic reports massive wide-scale Ukrainian offensive. I guess this might be the last time I use words "Luhansk People Republic".

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Head of Luhansk People Republic reports massive wide-scale Ukrainian offensive. I guess this might be the last time I use words "Luhansk People Republic".
We can only hope.
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Old 09-15-2022, 08:07 AM   #7448
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Head of Luhansk People Republic reports massive wide-scale Ukrainian offensive. I guess this might be the last time I use words "Luhansk People Republic".
sounds like Melitopol is also coming back to Ukraine soon.
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The utter failure of Russia here is staggering.
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:06 AM   #7450
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BBC reporting they've verified a video showing the Wagner group chief on a recruiting tour in prisons, telling inmates that if they serve six months in Wagner, they're free.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62911618
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:23 AM   #7451
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He also informed prisoners of Wagner's rules banning alcohol, drugs and "sexual contacts with local women, flora, fauna, men - anything".
Lmao. Go to war, but no funny business boys.
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:35 AM   #7452
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He also informed prisoners of Wagner's rules banning alcohol, drugs and "sexual contacts with local women, flora, fauna, men - anything".
Lmao. Go to war, but no funny business boys.
I mean come on half the fun is sex in another country

I found this more concerning

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"If you serve six months (in Wagner), you are free," he said. But he warned potential recruits against desertion and said "if you arrive in Ukraine and decide it's not for you, we will execute you".
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The utter failure of Russia here is staggering.
I'm not surprised.
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I mean come on half the fun is sex in another country

I found this more concerning
These recruits would probably be fighting on the front lines for Russia, with minimal training. That give you what a 1/4 chance of death and a 1/2 chance of serious injury?
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I mean come on half the fun is sex in another country
I have a funny feeling that the Wagner guys are not stopping their mercenaries from raping the locals and engaging in other human rights abuses.

google tells me the same thing. If they're actually telling them that, it's lip service.
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I have a funny feeling that the Wagner guys are not stopping their mercenaries from raping the locals and engaging in other human rights abuses.

google tells me the same thing. If they're actually telling them that, it's lip service.
It's tradition. The Red Army used rape as a weapon in Eastern Europe and Germany during and well after the war. Orders were to break the German spirit.
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The more I think about it, any of those prisoners who take that Wagner deal are likely getting a very raw deal.

Assignment 1: Guard these APCs on an exposed Ukrainian road...

Then 6 months comes up...I've altered the deal so that you are serving an additional 6 months pray that I don't alter it any further.
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The more I think about it, any of those prisoners who take that Wagner deal are likely getting a very raw deal.

Assignment 1: Guard these APCs on an exposed Ukrainian road...

Then 6 months comes up...I've altered the deal so that you are serving an additional 6 months pray that I don't alter it any further.
That's assuming they won't all be dead.
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These recruits would probably be fighting on the front lines for Russia, with minimal training. That give you what a 1/4 chance of death and a 1/2 chance of serious injury?
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I have a funny feeling that the Wagner guys are not stopping their mercenaries from raping the locals and engaging in other human rights abuses.

google tells me the same thing. If they're actually telling them that, it's lip service.
I was being facetious, I hope any of those ####s that commit aggression against Ukraine die a painful slow death
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Old 09-15-2022, 05:38 PM   #7460
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Mass graves found outside Izyum. Ukraine is striking Russia with HIMARS.

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