Saddledome literally falling apart

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

But isn't that a significant symptom to not having the required infrastructure?

I look forward to the day when, after we finally have a new facility, and some act for whatever reason skips Calgary anyway, and these people all come out of the word-work to us they told us so!

[undercoverbrother]

How are the beer lines holding up?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I look forward to the day when, after we finally have a new facility, and some act for whatever reason skips Calgary anyway, and these people all come out of the word-work to us they told us so!

Point made.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

What is this mystery act that skipped Calgary this time, and that wouldn't come here even if we had a new arena?

The Wiggles

[CroFlames]

I think I just got Rick rolled.

[topfiverecords]

Stolen from Reddit


Some more pages here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Calgary/com...in_saddledome/

[Enoch Root]

Here's the thing about acts and shows that are touring: they aren't interested in rating cities, they don't care what the perception of any given city is. It isn't a popularity contest. They don't look at Pittsburgh and Columbus, for instance, and decide: 'Pitt is a nicer city, we'll play there'.

They are selling a product, and they have criteria: we need these types of facilities, and we expect to generate this much revenue. If a city can deliver on that, then they move on to the next issue, which is finding a date that works. If it fits into the schedule and travel plans - great. If not, too bad. That's it.

[Enoch Root]

Now here's the thing from Calgary's perspective: the question isn't where does Calgary rank as a city, the question should be: what do we want to be going forward? And how do we achieve that?

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Now here's the thing from Calgary's perspective: the question isn't where does Calgary rank as a city, the question should be: what do we want to be going forward? And how do we achieve that?

We want to have the highest provincial revenue, highest wages, lowest taxes, worst entertainment infrastructure, and worst school and hospitals.

I think that about sums it up!

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

We want to have the highest provincial revenue, highest wages, lowest taxes, worst entertainment infrastructure, and worst school and hospitals.

I think that about sums it up!

So pretty much we want to be the US except they actually spend money on sports facilities.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Now here's the thing from Calgary's perspective: the question isn't where does Calgary rank as a city, the question should be: what do we want to be going forward? And how do we achieve that?

And does having and arena matter at all to that ranking? Do people rank cities based on how nice their hockey arena is? Or whether or not they get/miss a few of concerts per year?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

The Wiggles

I saw them play the Corral, no joke

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

And does having and arena matter at all to that ranking? Do people rank cities based on how nice their hockey arena is? Or whether or not they get/miss a few of concerts per year?

I would like an arena that isn’t actively crumbling apart, and yes, I would like to see more and better concerts come through here.

The fact that we are such a desirable place already is all the more reason to invest in our own entertainment infrastructure.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Canadianman

Guess the Flames billionare ownership should be building a new building for their business to operate out of?

Fixed.

[Redlan]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

And does having and arena matter at all to that ranking? Do people rank cities based on how nice their hockey arena is? Or whether or not they get/miss a few of concerts per year?

You are only peripherally addressing the issue with those questions. But yes, having an arena matters. In every city I have travelled I have either been to an event in a stadium, arena, and/or theater. Alternatively, many will just go to a venue just for the history. I will spare you a list of venues I have been to.

It is not about how "nice" the hockey arena, nor is it about hockey...hockey is just one user/venue in an arena. It is how the center can provide the region with quality entertainment venues, this can equate to how much outside dollars are spent in the city.

A "few" missed concerts downplays the number and is more like several. In all honesty it is a few big headliners, but those depend on your musical preference.

[CroFlames]

It would appear the Smashing Pumpkins are skipping Calgary, but also Edmonton. They are going to Quebec, Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Macman

Also, what better way to shift to a green economy then with infrastructure projects that create jobs and are beneficial to tourism as an example.

Unless those tourists are coming in by electric plane, tourism's not really green.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I saw them play the Corral, no joke

Several acts that played Rogers in Edmonton actually played the Corral here. A few have also played the Saddledome and a different venue in Edmonton.

Of course losing the Corral makes this redundant. But a lot of big (but not huge) acts are happy to take the cheaper rate for a lower capacity venue, knowing they are guaranteed to sell out.

The other consideration is venue availability. New arena or not, Calgary is not going to be an anchor city for any tour (except maybe a country act or Stampede booking). The biggest acts anchor their tours around certain huge cities and then fill in the gaps based on various criteria - venue availability being a big one. If Edmonton is available two nights after a Vancouver date and Calgary isn't, it's an easy choice. Or vice versa.

In the short term, this discussion around mega-acts is irrelevant from an arena standpoint, because the current focus is stadium shows. Beyonce is doing Seattle but not Vancouver. And Edmonton (Commonwealth) but not Calgary.

Lastly, there are a lot of other city pairs in a similar situation:
Nashville-Memphis
St Louis-KC
Ohio cities

Sometimes its both. Sometimes its one or the other. Or neither.

Originally Posted by Redlan

You are only peripherally addressing the issue with those questions. But yes, having an arena matters. In every city I have travelled I have either been to an event in a stadium, arena, and/or theater. Alternatively, many will just go to a venue just for the history. I will spare you a list of venues I have been to.

It is not about how "nice" the hockey arena, nor is it about hockey...hockey is just one user/venue in an arena. It is how the center can provide the region with quality entertainment venues, this can equate to how much outside dollars are spent in the city.

A "few" missed concerts downplays the number and is more like several. In all honesty it is a few big headliners, but those depend on your musical preference.

sev·er·al
· pronoun
more than two but not many.

So yes, several. Or a few. But either way it is not many.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

In the short term, this discussion around mega-acts is irrelevant from an arena standpoint, because the current focus is stadium shows. Beyonce is doing Seattle but not Vancouver. And Edmonton (Commonwealth) but not Calgary.

On one of her tours, she stopped in Vancouver, Edmonton, and even Saskatoon, but skipped Calgary.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Redlan

You are only peripherally addressing the issue with those questions. But yes, having an arena matters. In every city I have travelled I have either been to an event in a stadium, arena, and/or theater. Alternatively, many will just go to a venue just for the history. I will spare you a list of venues I have been to.

It is not about how "nice" the hockey arena, nor is it about hockey...hockey is just one user/venue in an arena. It is how the center can provide the region with quality entertainment venues, this can equate to how much outside dollars are spent in the city.

A "few" missed concerts downplays the number and is more like several. In all honesty it is a few big headliners, but those depend on your musical preference.

This discussion is about a new hockey arena, why are you bringing up stadiums and theatres? Those have nothing to do with the value of a hockey arena.

And it’s not about hockey? What? Please list all the other amazing things we will have that we didn’t before if we get a nice arena, other than a few concerts because that horse has been beaten to death.

I also question your vacation choices if you only travel to cities to visit the hockey arena.