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Old 09-13-2022, 01:13 PM   #4121
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I like Rick Ball.
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I like the NFL.
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55% follow NHL
36% follow NFL
32% follow CFL
31% follow NBA or MLB
22% follow MLS

I also am a huge World Cup Ski Racing fan however that rarely gets covered.

I said it before each to there own and when its NFL for a 1/2 hour, I'll listen to Rock or something else. What ever floats your boat.
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Old 09-13-2022, 01:51 PM   #4124
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Five. Enjoy the game, don't like the league. Really don't like the sports talk surrounding the NFL, which seems to be 45% betting (which I don't do), 45% fantasy (which assumes you have in-depth knowledge of about 2,000 players' individual stats and career trajectories), and 10% actual football.
This is why I stopped watching. Love the game, played it in school, ran an NFL pool for 20 years. But I stopped watching because I can't stand how the coverage has morphed into these annoying talk shows and hype machines.
So make it 6
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Old 09-13-2022, 02:55 PM   #4125
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Man, I dont pay attention to any analysts when watching sports. I watch for the game itself, everything else is a commercial to me and I either zone out, grab a beer, or better yet, fast forward if it's recorded.

I think ALL televised sports now have a gambling slant, its just where its all heading.
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That's literally his schtick. He's a contrarian and an absolutist. Rarely any soft takes or hedging. That's not what sells. He makes controversial hot takes that go against popular opinion.


If he's right, he can say "hey, don't blame me, I didn't want to be right." If he's wrong, he goes on about how happy he is that he was wrong.

He's done this so many times that it's predictable. If Matthew Coronato turns out to be legit, don't be surprised to hear Francis say that he expects him to walk in free agency to play with his childhood team the New York Islanders.

That said, lets be honest... re: Gaudreau and Tkachuk, he was guessing. For years, he was all over Gaudreau to PHI and Tkachuk to STL. Both easy speculative spots because that's (shocker) where they're from. Whoa, thats some deep research!
While I agree with your take. At the end of the day the guy is really just another lazy nepotism hire that has failed up and is in the boys club.
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Old 09-13-2022, 04:38 PM   #4127
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Except when Francis decided prior to Gaudreau leaving that Johnny was going to stay.

He zigged when he should have stayed the course. Francis knows nothing.
I was just going to say this...after using it as clickbait for years he changed his tune after the playoffs and said he was staying
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Man, I dont pay attention to any analysts when watching sports. I watch for the game itself, everything else is a commercial to me and I either zone out, grab a beer, or better yet, fast forward if it's recorded.

I think ALL televised sports now have a gambling slant, its just where its all heading.
I don't pay attention to them either. Too the point when, aside from Flames games which my wife also watches, I shut the sound down on the sports I do follow. Play music. Rock n Roll.

And if I'm working out for the coming ski season, I want music for rhythm. I can watch PVR'd NHL, CFL and or World Cup with the sound off and don't miss a thing. Don't need analysts to enjoy those particular games or sports.

Actually slated for a workout tonight! No games on I know of so will replay a WC race from last year. No idea what I'll choose.
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This is why I stopped watching. Love the game, played it in school, ran an NFL pool for 20 years. But I stopped watching because I can't stand how the coverage has morphed into these annoying talk shows and hype machines.
So make it 6

This couldn’t be better said. I can’t handle football culture, it’s nearing WWE territory in the way it’s presented and marketed.


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This couldn’t be better said. I can’t handle football culture, it’s nearing WWE territory in the way it’s presented and marketed.


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while i agree with your take. At the end of the day the guy is really just another lazy nepotism hire that has failed up and is in the boys club.
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This is why I stopped watching. Love the game, played it in school, ran an NFL pool for 20 years. But I stopped watching because I can't stand how the coverage has morphed into these annoying talk shows and hype machines.
So make it 6
7.

Game “starts”. Commercial, pre-kick analysis which is really just the old boys shooting the ####, commercial, kickoff, touchback, commercial, 3 plays, punt, commercial, 1 play, injury, commercial

Repeat

The amount of marketing makes it unwatchable
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and between commercials, all they talk about is fantasy football and betting odds

I remember when it was a team game and was about the game
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Who do you think helped chase Gaudreau out of town? Francis mission accomplished.
You can't possibly believe that. You literally can't.
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and between commercials, all they talk about is fantasy football and betting odds

I remember when it was a team game and was about the game
Have you not watched any NHL over the last year or two? It's not just an NFL thing.
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Have you not watched any NHL over the last year or two? It's not just an NFL thing.

You’re not wrong, last year Sportsnets presentation of the nhl was awful. Betting talk during intermissions combined with nonstop betting commercials. I stopped watching, now I’m a highlight watcher.


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You’re not wrong, last year Sportsnets presentation of the nhl was awful. Betting talk during intermissions combined with nonstop betting commercials. I stopped watching, now I’m a highlight watcher.


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Yeah it's pretty bad. I tune in to watch game only so it's disappointing that TSN and RSN have shifted to betting talk in intermissions and a flood of betting commercials. Far worse than an NFL broadcast. I understand that it brings in extra money for the networks but it has turned off a lot of people as well.
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Have you not watched any NHL over the last year or two? It's not just an NFL thing.
The primary problem with the NHL coverage is that the ads are all gambling. For the most part, the actual coverage of the games hasn't changed much. However, that insert of the two guys talking about spreads during the playoffs was absolutely disgusting and caused me to turn the channel during intermissions.

But for the NFL coverage, it isn't just at halftime, it is non stop. The entire game and the entire coverage are now focused on fantasy points and individual players.
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The primary problem with the NHL coverage is that the ads are all gambling. For the most part, the actual coverage of the games hasn't changed much. However, that insert of the two guys talking about spreads during the playoffs was absolutely disgusting and caused me to turn the channel during intermissions.

But for the NFL coverage, it isn't just at halftime, it is non stop. The entire game and the entire coverage are now focused on fantasy points and individual players.

I’m not a fan of fantasy sports, I just don’t get the draw nor do I have the interest or time do it. The continuous discussion around this topic vs the team or the game pushes the casual fan away.


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^ 100% agree with the above; however, the financial reality for some leagues is that these sports books are willing to spend money advertising with them - so it becomes a case of strange bedfellows that likely is not going away for quite some time.

seems to me that some people are more into watching games due to their financial stake rather than as a fan which is also unlikely to change as it is easier than ever to place a bet
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