[Signing] Avs sign Evan Rodrigues (1 Year, $2M)

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by HitterD

For me, the cap space is exactly the reason I didn’t want to sign anyone else, not just Evan specifically. $1-2 million in cap space at the start of the season Is going to become $3-6million player at the deadline, which to me will be much more valuable than signing a 1-2 million player now for the whole season.

This team is good enough to challenge for the division as it stands right now. I’d rather use a larger amount of space at the deadline than fill the role now personally.

Maybe. But by the deadline there are more teams willing to take on dead cap because their seasons didn't pan out - right now it's basically just Arizona.

And I think right now you're getting that 3-4 million dollar player for 2 million. Pre-covid, Rodrigues probably gets a Matt Belesky type of deal out of someone (and of course at that price or anything like it, I would balk). Bargain bin shopping at the end of free agency has become one of the best uses of cap space during this post-Covid-cap-crunch period. You can get really efficient, short term deals if you just wait and clean up the scraps, even waiting for PTOs. Zach Aston Reese should cost someone $2.5-3 million for multiple seasons, and he might sign for something around 1. Kessel is going to score 50 points or something and cost no money. Then there's the added benefit of having that player in the lineup right from camp (which I hope we're about to see the benefit of re: Tyler Toffoli).

I understand where you're coming from, but personally I'd rather spend the money now, if you can get one of the half dozen or so bargain guys out there.

[GullFoss]

I assume flames need cap space so they can trade a defenseman for a quality roster player before the season starts.

They just don't know which defenseman they want to trade yet lol.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I assume flames need cap space so they can trade a defenseman for a quality roster player before the season starts.



They just don't know which defenseman they want to trade yet lol.

I continue to believe that the Flames are not trading a defenseman.

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[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by HitterD

For me, the cap space is exactly the reason I didn’t want to sign anyone else, not just Evan specifically. $1-2 million in cap space at the start of the season Is going to become $3-6million player at the deadline, which to me will be much more valuable than signing a 1-2 million player now for the whole season.

This team is good enough to challenge for the division as it stands right now. I’d rather use a larger amount of space at the deadline than fill the role now personally.

This is where I am at too. There is an opportunity cost to consider if we completely cap out early.

First, I think there is a really good chance that Rodrigues will be a one-hit wonder given his age and previous production before last season. The pros of waiting to see if there is a better opportunity during the season intrigue me more than adding a player right now that I think would be largely inconsequential. If it was a really good player with fewer question marks, fine, spend it all now. I just don't think Rodrigues is the guy.

Second, there could be holes that appear during the season due to injury or other players not performing up to snuff. There have been several times over the years where players become available during the season and the Flames have been handcuffed by the cap so couldn't take advantage. The extra couple of million now could easily be the difference in being able to make bigger improvements later or just having some flexibility.

Right now, it reminds me of the old Wheel of Fortune when contestants would have to spend their money on items in a showcase. They'd be down to their last few hundred dollars and would have to buy things like ceramic cats. Rodrigues is a ceramic cat. Take the gift certificate and get something you really want in the future. Don't just take the ceramic cat because it is there.

[Hot_Flatus]

Glad this shook out like it did. The Flames will be able to find a much better player in a mid-season trade than Rodrigues actually is.

[Jore]

Good signing for player and team

[Wastedyouth]

They could have had plenty of space for Rodrigues if they didnt foolishly give a sub-replacement level player in Rooney 1+ mill.

That signing was absolutely stupid.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

They could have had plenty of space for Rodrigues if they didnt foolishly give a sub-replacement level player in Rooney 1+ mill.

That signing was absolutely stupid.

Disagree, he is going to end up being an important piece for us and will end up good value.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I assume flames need cap space so they can trade a defenseman for a quality roster player before the season starts.

They just don't know which defenseman they want to trade yet lol.

I think the issue is the Dmen they are selling (Valimaki, Mackey) just aren’t valuable enough to other teams to trade a good forward for.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Glad this shook out like it did. The Flames will be able to find a much better player in a mid-season trade than Rodrigues actually is.

Yeah but it won’t be free

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

I think the issue is the Dmen they are selling (Valimaki, Mackey) just aren’t valuable enough to other teams to trade a good forward for.

Those 2 won’t get anything better than the prospects they already have, Pelletier and Ruzicka

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Disagree, he is going to end up being an important piece for us and will end up good value.

Sutter is going to overuse him for sure

[bax]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I assume flames need cap space so they can trade a defenseman for a quality roster player before the season starts.

They just don't know which defenseman they want to trade yet lol.

Treliving is on record saying the defense was an area they wanted to address and improve. I really doubt they are looking at trading any of the top 6

[Roof-Daddy]

Damn that's the 2nd top 6 right shot RW to sign a one year deal with an AAV that would fit the Flames cap perfectly.

Too bad. Would have really improved the depth up front without giving any assets up or committing long term.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Just say no to these guys with the baseball names.

What, pray tell are “baseball names”.

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by bax

Treliving is on record saying the defense was an area they wanted to address and improve. I really doubt they are looking at trading any of the top 6

I think this too. Who's in their top-6?

[Enoch Root]

Juan Carlos Rodregues Sanchez Sandoval

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I continue to believe that the Flames are not trading a defenseman.

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Depends, right? What if Valimaki impresses in camp. Then you have a real problem, because probability he gets claimed in waivers increases. And then if you're the flames, you have to go through the excersice of who is better:

1) Kylington + probability of unclaimed Valimaki

2) Kylington + return for Valimaki

3) Valimaki + return for Kylington

If the probability of Valimaki being claimed is 50%+, I think the flames will take Option 2 or Option 3.

If someone offers a young, top-6 forward for Kylington and Valimaki looks great in camp, then why wouldn't the flames go that route?

[Jay Random]

I'm not holding my breath for Valimaki to recover the mobility that he lost due to major injuries.

[camm13]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Damn that's the 2nd top 6 right shot RW to sign a one year deal with an AAV that would fit the Flames cap perfectly.

Too bad. Would have really improved the depth up front without giving any assets up or committing long term.

Except not, cause Ruzika still needs to be signed and at least one more depth forward.