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Old 09-09-2022, 10:40 PM   #361
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Republic debate flares as Australia mourns its longest-serving monarch Queen Elizabeth II

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...n-elizabeth-ii
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Old 09-09-2022, 10:53 PM   #362
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Besides the UK, there are currently 14 independent nations remaining where Charles is the monarch: Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, The Bahamas, Belize, Canada, Grenada, Jamaica, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Solomon Islands, and Tuvalu.

Most are small (in both population and size) island nations either in the Caribbean region or Oceania. Only 5 have populations over 1 million (Canada, Australia, Papua New Guinea, New Zealand, and Jamaica) and only Canada and Australia have populations over 10 million.

Canada is the only member of the G7. Canada and Australia are the only members of the G20.


I suspect Jamaica, New Zealand, and Australia will push to become republics before Canada does just because of the difficulties we have with Constitutional reform here.
ironically though getting rid of an English monarchy is probably one of the only constitutional changes Quebec would get behind without any problem
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Old 09-09-2022, 11:31 PM   #363
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The Queen’s reign saw:
6 Popes
14 US Presidents
59 different starting Quarterbacks for the Cleveland Browns
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The Queen’s reign saw:
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59 different starting Quarterbacks for the Cleveland Browns
Well that one is just not fair!
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Old 09-10-2022, 12:13 AM   #365
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59 different starting Quarterbacks for the Cleveland Browns
The Browns stat is crazy.
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Old 09-10-2022, 10:07 AM   #366
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I dunno, it seems like sometimes you have to take one step back to take two or twenty or two hundred steps forward.

There are a lot of really ####ty systems and institutions out there. If things are going well for you, then of course preserving those conditions seems preferable. Which probably factors into my opinion that the monarchy is really dumb, but as good as any option to serve its limited but imported function. Mostly I just don't trust us to come up with anything better right now.

Personally it is the whole inheritance and class privilege aspect of the system that bugs me. I do think there is value in having someone who isn't tied to the current political party in power or worried about being re-elected with a function that is mostly ceremonial but can be a final check on something really insane. To me the Governor General role does have some importance and I don't like it when it is filled based on celebrity (e.g. Clarkson, Payette) instead of by someone who actually understands the Constitution and the role.
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Classism is still quite entrenched in English culture. Accents matter a lot.
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Classism is entrenched in like 90% of the world.
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Classism is entrenched in like 90% of the world.
That too, that too.
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pepsifree and psychoguy may be the two of the most self-unaware posters on CP.
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pepsifree and psychoguy may be the two of the most self-unaware posters on CP.
From the middle-aged guy who just stumbled on the realisation that classism exists.
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The state funeral for the Queen will be held next Monday, September 19. The funeral will be at 11:00am in London, which is 4:00am in Calgary.

Charles has declared the 19th to be a national holiday in the UK. We'll see if Trudeau follows suit in Canada.
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Innit fam.
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The state funeral for the Queen will be held next Monday, September 19. The funeral will be at 11:00am in London, which is 4:00am in Calgary.

Charles has declared the 19th to be a national holiday in the UK. We'll see if Trudeau follows suit in Canada.
Lol. Really?

If we got a day off every time a Royal died nobody would ever have to go to work.

Which, in its own hilarious way is hysterically ironic considering how Royals historically accumulated most of their wealth.

Justin will be a good boy and give the masses a day off. Its easy points.

I just hope they call the day something great though.

"Her Majesty's Croaking Day"
"The Queen's Heaven Day"

And keep in mind, I'm no Monarchist but I have a healthy degree of respect for Queen Elizabeth II the person.
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Classism is entrenched in like 100% of the world.
Fixed, whatever “classism” means I guess. Again. Human nature.
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Lol. Really?

If we got a day off every time a Royal died nobody would ever have to go to work.

Which, in its own hilarious way is hysterically ironic considering how Royals historically accumulated most of their wealth.

Justin will be a good boy and give the masses a day off. Its easy points.

I just hope they call the day something great though.

"Her Majesty's Croaking Day"
"The Queen's Heaven Day"

And keep in mind, I'm no Monarchist but I have a healthy degree of respect for Queen Elizabeth II the person.
The Canadian Thanksgiving is actually based on a day where a royal family member recovered from an illness. It was apparently so great for the world, that we got a stat holiday out of it.
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The Canadian Thanksgiving is actually based on a day where a royal family member recovered from an illness. It was apparently so great for the world, that we got a stat holiday out of it.
Sure, why not? We get a stat every year because Don Getty's son was arrested with a bunch of cocaine 30+ years ago.
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If we got a day off every time a Royal died nobody would ever have to go to work.
I think the economy can probably survive one extra day off every 70 years or so.
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I think the economy can probably survive one extra day off every 70 years or so.
You think King Chuck is going to make it to 143?

I was speaking Historically though, how many Kings, Queens, Dukes and Duchesses and whatever the hell else has England had? If we got a day off for each one we'd never have to work again!
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