Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Slava

Western alienation has a long history in Alberta, and this really isn't new. In the 80's we elected a couple of separatists to the Alberta Legislature, and there have been a number of issues that have stoked these fires through the years. Resource wealth and those associated issues are obviously a piece of this, but it goes back further. A lot of the discontent stems from the west largely being ignored and taken for granted. It's not even a purely Albertan issue, because you can include BC and Saskatchewan in there as well. And sure...the argument back is "well if you voted for other parties..." but that doesn't actually solve it either because of the seat distribution.

I'll say that when I was younger, I would think that Alberta and the west just had a persecution complex, but my view on that is changing. A lot of the decisions made in the name of the environment today are entirely mind-boggling. Everything from the decisions on resources and resource production to this latest scheme around fertilizer emissions. Its one attack after another on the main industries in the west.

I think its just been drilled in people's head that they are getting screwed in Alberta forever - so they just start to believe it while you get paid more and pay lower taxes than the rest of us. The province hit the jackpot because it has a boatload of oil/resources under it.

Originally Posted by Slava

Well the latest that catches my eye is the fertilizer emissions issue. I mean we're literally talking about food production here...it's kind of important to humans. I can't say whether these kinds of things are sheer incompetence or malice, but it really doesn't matter.

How does that impact Alberta or the west anymore than the rest of the country?

[InglewoodFan]

Loewen was on the CBC morning show this morning. The host brought up that he was voted out of caucus as an example of how he may not be the best guy to unite the UCP. His reply was prefaced by "we never really saw the results of that vote".

He also explained that his "Alberta Constitution" is way better than Smith's idea and that property rights are a big thing to Albertans. Am I the only one who takes "property rights" to be code for castle doctrine?

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

"They're interested in political stability, not political chaos. They're interested in a jurisdiction that respects the rule of law and the authority of the courts."


Oh man, you are hilarious Kenny. Political stability coming from you?

Rule of law? Isn’t this the same guy who implemented aged based minimum wage laws that violate this province’s human rights act?

[Ozy_Flame]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567538543689449474

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567538543689449474

"If we give the disabled and poor people a token amount of more money to buy milk and bread do you know how much that will affect prices!!!"

Yes I do. It won't. ####ing UCP are clownshoes.

[Fuzz]

It's OK, Smith will give them vouchers for acupuncture so they can heal themselves. It's probably their fault they are disabled, anyway.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Rule of law? Isn’t this the same guy who implemented aged based minimum wage laws that violate this province’s human rights act?

I always thought age based discrimination was limited to 18-65.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by belsarius

"If we give the disabled and poor people a token amount of more money to buy milk and bread do you know how much that will affect prices!!!"

Yes I do. It won't. ####ing UCP are clownshoes.

I had a co-worker get into trouble and inquire on the social benefits available in Alberta. $749/month for a single person. If you make more than $1200 in a month, that number is zero and you are declared 'not poor anymore'. There is a sliding scale on how much you make versus the payout. Her hours were cut back to about $1000 a month, and after much paperwork was told that Alberta would chip in about 100 bones.

Stress is a killer. Unfortunately mental health is not considered covered health in Alberta, so let's just watch her suffer.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by GGG

I always thought age based discrimination was limited to 18-65.

There are exceptions in the act that cover things related to entering establishments or being provided a service by a business. An example would be that it’s not a human rights violation for a casino to deny entry to minors. But the section of the act relating to discrimination re employment practices is quite clear:

No employer shall

(a) refuse to employ or refuse to continue to employ any person, or

(b) discriminate against any person with regard to employment or any term or condition of employment,

because of the race, religious beliefs, colour, gender, gender identity, gender expression, physical disability, mental disability, age, ancestry, place of origin, marital status, source of income, family status or sexual orientation of that person or of any other person.
(2) Subsection (1) as it relates to age and marital status does not affect the operation of any bona fide retirement or pension plan or the terms or conditions of any bona fide group or employee insurance plan.
(3) Subsection (1) does not apply with respect to a refusal, limitation, specification or preference based on a bona fide occupational requirement.

https://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/A25P5.pdf

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

There are exceptions in the act that cover things related to entering establishments or being provided a service by a business. An example would be that it’s not a human rights violation for a casino to deny entry to minors. But the section of the act relating to discrimination re employment practices is quite clear:



https://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/A25P5.pdf

There must be some age related exceptions. Judges for example, have mandatory retirement at either 70 or 75 (depending on the court).

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

There must be some age related exceptions. Judges for example, have mandatory retirement at either 70 or 75 (depending on the court).

I provided a link to the act, you’re welcome to read through it and share any exemptions you find relating to employment practices that suggest it’s ok to pay people differently based on their age to do the same work.

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

It's OK, Smith will give them vouchers for acupuncture so they can heal themselves. It's probably their fault they are disabled, anyway.

Or their parents made fun of disabled people as kids, and this was divine retribution - like what Mr. & Mrs Valmer told Jimmy.

[powderjunkie]

LOL. and WTF.

[powderjunkie]

Also, the Mount Queen Elizabeth he references was actually named after the Queen of Belgium...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Queen_Elizabeth

[Locke]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

LOL. and WTF.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Also, the Mount Queen Elizabeth he references was actually named after the Queen of Belgium...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Queen_Elizabeth

nm!

[RedHot25]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Also, the Mount Queen Elizabeth he references was actually named after the Queen of Belgium...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Queen_Elizabeth

This must just burn him inside, as a purported big fan of history, the monarch, etc...and then goes and names the wrong mountain/queen....

That said, not sure if that one is better, or this, that came from the Speaker's office. That title.....is something.

Demise of the Crown: Speaker Public Statement
September 08, 2022 Media inquiries

Statement by the Speaker of the Legislative Assembly of Alberta on the Passing of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II

“Along with millions of people around the world today, I was saddened to learn about the passing of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. On behalf of all Members of the Legislative Assembly of Alberta, I offer my heartfelt condolences to the Royal family. My thoughts are also with all countries of the Commonwealth whom Her Majesty faithfully served throughout her remarkable reign. A beloved sovereign and a respected figure among leaders the world over, Queen Elizabeth II was a symbol of our nation’s historical and continuing connection to the British monarchy and also of the role of the constitutional monarchy in Canada.”

Honourable Nathan Cooper, Speaker of the Legislative Assembly of Alberta

During her life Queen Elizabeth II visited Alberta six times. Her first visit to the province was in 1951, when she was Princess Elizabeth. Her most recent visit,

They've quietly gone and changed the title, I wonder why....

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

LOL. and WTF.

Sounds like another Venezuelan Food court/food truck story!

[Wormius]

It looked like somebody competent wrote the first page of the statement and then Kenney snuck in that last one.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Also, the Mount Queen Elizabeth he references was actually named after the Queen of Belgium...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Queen_Elizabeth

I initially thought it was the previous Queen Elizabeth, since they usually make the distinction, eg) QE2 highway.