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Old 09-04-2022, 11:18 AM   #3341
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Tkachuk was raised to be a captain. Right from the his rookie season, he would be the last guy off the ice and congratulating the goalie. He was doing his best to position himself on becoming the next captain, and I argue that he did everything well as a captain. Ultimate 'team first guy' I think on and off the ice. He took it upon himself to stick up for Backlund when he ended up fighting Dumba after Dumba took out Backlund, for instance. You could tell that he was probably the one of those 'glue guys' on the team that just know how a room works. There is a tonne about Tkachuk on and off the ice to make you believe he would make a great captain.


However, in my humble opinion, the rat should never be the captain of a team.
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I argue that he did everything well as a captain. Ultimate 'team first guy' I think on and off the ice...
Where is the evidence for Tkachuk's off ice leadership qualities?


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Schwindt for future captain.
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Tkachuk was raised to be a captain. Right from the his rookie season, he would be the last guy off the ice and congratulating the goalie. He was doing his best to position himself on becoming the next captain, and I argue that he did everything well as a captain. Ultimate 'team first guy' I think on and off the ice. He took it upon himself to stick up for Backlund when he ended up fighting Dumba after Dumba took out Backlund, for instance. You could tell that he was probably the one of those 'glue guys' on the team that just know how a room works. There is a tonne about Tkachuk on and off the ice to make you believe he would make a great captain.


However, in my humble opinion, the rat should never be the captain of a team.
I don’t think he’d have the respect of officials as a captain. As for sticking up for teammates, I saw Troy Brouwer and Curtis Lazar do that too.
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I think Tkachuk was raised to believe he should be captain, which isn't a good thing. He clearly tried to paint himself as captain material, but a captain should be obvious to the other players on the team, to management, and to anyone who spends time around the team. If you have to demand it as part of a contract, you're not captain material.
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Players who ask to be captain aren’t captains.

Players who having a burning internal desire to be captain, but lead regardless, that’s your captain. And it’s bequeathed, not asked for and definitely not demanded.
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Wait, people believe that Tkachuk demanded the captain as part of his contract and it wasn't simply a rumor that ended up getting reported as legit? I guess it is feasible, I don't know NHL contract rules, but I would dismiss this as hearsay unless it was a bonafide source.


Who was the source again?
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Old 09-04-2022, 03:20 PM   #3348
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Wait, people believe that Tkachuk demanded the captain as part of his contract and it wasn't simply a rumor that ended up getting reported as legit? I guess it is feasible, I don't know NHL contract rules, but I would dismiss this as hearsay unless it was a bonafide source.


Who was the source again?
You could scroll a page back. Post #3331 for the lazy.
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Just a fun fact that I just learned...Huberdeau had 54 primary assists last season, best in the NHL...MORE THAN McDavid's 51 playing 30 mins a night.

all points count but primary assists usually have more to do with the goal than secondary assists
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Just a fun fact that I just learned...Huberdeau had 54 primary assists last season, best in the NHL...MORE THAN McDavid's 51 playing 30 mins a night.

all points count but primary assists usually have more to do with the goal than secondary assists
He also had inferior linemates to those of McD. There's definitely some players on that team whose numbers are going to go way down.
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I don’t think Gaudreau cared enough about beating the oilers, but he also didn’t care enough about beating any other team in the NHL for that matter. Guy cares about his cheques clearing every two weeks, putting up enough points to be happy, and whether his tricked out golf cart will be ready for summer at the shore. And whatever, god bless him, that’s how most people live their lives just on a smaller scale at a much less prestigious job so who cares. I think Tkachuk cares much more, a lot more, about winning but just lacked the maturity to take it back from the line when things got really heated and not purely see red and take everything into overdrive which ####ed his game. High probability that as he matures he’ll learn that skill, but maybe he never will and that’s a risk on this trade from Florida’s perspective.
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I don’t think Gaudreau cared enough about beating the oilers, but he also didn’t care enough about beating any other team in the NHL for that matter. Guy cares about his cheques clearing every two weeks, putting up enough points to be happy, and whether his tricked out golf cart will be ready for summer at the shore. And whatever, god bless him, that’s how most people live their lives just on a smaller scale at a much less prestigious job so who cares. I think Tkachuk cares much more, a lot more, about winning but just lacked the maturity to take it back from the line when things got really heated and not purely see red and take everything into overdrive which ####ed his game. High probability that as he matures he’ll learn that skill, but maybe he never will and that’s a risk on this trade from Florida’s perspective.
What a silly summary of what another human being thinks.

You're truly gifted to know all that.

Can't the guy just be a great hockey player that didn't have his best results in the playoffs? He isn't the fastest player, he certainly isn't the biggest player, things tighten up a lot in the post season and it doesn't suite his game.

The rest of the summary is just a personal attack on a human being you know nothing about.
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Just my impression my dude. You and other are free to disagree, obviously. I'm sure tonnes of team success await human being Gaudreau on the Columbus Blue Jackets
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Just a fun fact that I just learned...Huberdeau had 54 primary assists last season, best in the NHL...MORE THAN McDavid's 51 playing 30 mins a night.

all points count but primary assists usually have more to do with the goal than secondary assists
This has been posted before, but here us a video collection of all of Huberdeau's goals and primary assists from last season...



One of the things I am struck by watching this is how much the Florida Sam Bennett closely resembles the Calgary Bennett. If Huberdeau can drag his ass to a 50-point season, just imagine what he will accomplish with players like Lindholm, Mangiapane and Toffoli.

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Shout out to a line of 9 - 10 - 11. Hmm, have we ever seen that before?
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I don’t think Gaudreau cared enough about beating the oilers, but he also didn’t care enough about beating any other team in the NHL for that matter. Guy cares about his cheques clearing every two weeks, putting up enough points to be happy, and whether his tricked out golf cart will be ready for summer at the shore. And whatever, god bless him, that’s how most people live their lives just on a smaller scale at a much less prestigious job so who cares. I think Tkachuk cares much more, a lot more, about winning but just lacked the maturity to take it back from the line when things got really heated and not purely see red and take everything into overdrive which ####ed his game. High probability that as he matures he’ll learn that skill, but maybe he never will and that’s a risk on this trade from Florida’s perspective.
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Just my impression my dude. You and other are free to disagree, obviously. I'm sure tonnes of team success await human being Gaudreau on the Columbus Blue Jackets

The guy who left 16 mil on the table only cares about cashing his checks? Get real
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Just a fun fact that I just learned...Huberdeau had 54 primary assists last season, best in the NHL...MORE THAN McDavid's 51 playing 30 mins a night.

all points count but primary assists usually have more to do with the goal than secondary assists
I think given the fact that Huberdeau has been tracking consistently over a PPG over the last 4 seasons and put up his totals last year alongside secondary players, the Flames quietly scooped up a bonafide top 5 talent in the NHL in exchange for a guy that is probably a top 30-40 ranked player (and got a few other great pieces tacked on).

Some amazing work by Treliving which might not even be fully appreciated until people see what JH can do up here. It was easy to get overlooked in Florida, but north of the border people will take note of this guy's immense talent and line-driving ability.

I really hope we have someone currently who can be a good fit on that right side to help fill out the potential that a Huberdeau-Lindholm line has.

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Where is the evidence for Tkachuk's off ice leadership qualities?


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Exactly. He was not well-liked in the locker room and VERY rarely hung out with anyone on the team off-ice. He was never going to be the captain of the Flames.
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What a silly summary of what another human being thinks.

You're truly gifted to know all that.

Can't the guy just be a great hockey player that didn't have his best results in the playoffs? He isn't the fastest player, he certainly isn't the biggest player, things tighten up a lot in the post season and it doesn't suite his game.

The rest of the summary is just a personal attack on a human being you know nothing about.
Even after the playoffs Johnny just had where he scored a series winner and was over a PPG he still can’t escape the playoff choker label
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