Huberdeau and Weegar Signing Discussion Thread

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Milano floats. There is the reason the Ducks don’t want to qualify him for such a small salary and nobody picks him up.

Only good thing is he is cheap and should be motivated for his last shot at the NHL.

Sutter can straighten him out...it wouldn't be the first time a player was not qualified, waived, let go, and came back to have a strong season/career

"nobody picks him up" is also likely false...he probably has options but wants to find the best fit

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yeah , he is not a regular 100 pt guy for sure

I am just saying playing with Barkov and a stacked team, it should not be a surprise that he hit it again at some point. He is only 24

don't know about that

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

So was Kylington though.

That said, while lots of times people talk about Sutter being able to turn players around, why make him do that as opposed to getting players who don't need it? Unless they otherwise have distinct and rare attributes, that is. If we're talking bottom six especially, I'd imagine you can find "Sutter players" as easily as ones he has to work hard to chnage.

Sutter worked on the coaching staff as an advisor in Anaheim while Milano played there. Sutter will know and will tell Treliving. If we're still interested in him, then no doubt Sutter consented. So the point you are replying to is, as usual, entirely moot as the person sharing it consistently believes they exist in the minds of other people.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Sutter worked on the coaching staff as an advisor in Anaheim while Milano played there. Sutter will know and will tell Treliving. If we're still interested in him, then no doubt Sutter consented. So the point you are replying to is, as usual, entirely moot as the person sharing it consistently believes they exist in the minds of other people.

I'm not entirely sure what your last sentence means. But yeah, if Treliving goes out and gets someone I'm sure he's asked Sutter what he thinks.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Sutter worked on the coaching staff as an advisor in Anaheim while Milano played there. Sutter will know and will tell Treliving. If we're still interested in him, then no doubt Sutter consented. So the point you are replying to is, as usual, entirely moot as the person sharing it consistently believes they exist in the minds of other people.

Boy you are on a roll today with the personal jabs at me. I erased what I wrote because it is what you want to see. I have tried to not lose my crap when someone clearly is out to troll me with personal attacks and you are just trying to goad me. So have it, after all despite what it says in the rules if I report it nothing will happen. So you go, what else you got?

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dino7c

don't know about that

Florida lost a lot of pieces, especially with Duclair out most of the year.

Tkachuk-Barkov-Reinhart
Verhaeghe-Bennett-Hornqvist
Lomberg-Lundell-White
Cousins-Luostarinen-Balcers
Staal-Tierney

Forsling-Ekblad
Marc Staal-Gudas
Carlsson-Montour
Del Zotto

Bobrovsky
Knight

And Maurice instead of the Coach Q / Brunette combo.

To me that team really lacks depth outside of that top line and Ekblad. And is $3.3M over the cap before Duclair is on LTIR.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Florida lost a lot of pieces, especially with Duclair out most of the year.

Tkachuk-Barkov-Reinhart
Verhaeghe-Bennett-Hornqvist
Lomberg-Lundell-White
Cousins-Luostarinen-Balcers
Staal-Tierney

Forsling-Ekblad
Marc Staal-Gudas
Carlsson-Montour
Del Zotto

Bobrovsky
Knight

And Maurice instead of the Coach Q / Brunette combo.

To me that team really lacks depth outside of that top line and Ekblad. And is $3.3M over the cap before Duclair is on LTIR.

And who knows what Goalie Bob you get in any given year.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Florida lost a lot of pieces, especially with Duclair out most of the year.

Tkachuk-Barkov-Reinhart
Verhaeghe-Bennett-Hornqvist
Lomberg-Lundell-White
Cousins-Luostarinen-Balcers
Staal-Tierney

Forsling-Ekblad
Marc Staal-Gudas
Carlsson-Montour
Del Zotto

Bobrovsky
Knight

And Maurice instead of the Coach Q / Brunette combo.

To me that team really lacks depth outside of that top line and Ekblad. And is $3.3M over the cap before Duclair is on LTIR.

What happened with Duclair?

[AndyM]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

What happened with Duclair?

Achilles.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

It would suck to be drafted by the Flames.

Leave it alone, give Ruzicka a shot FFS.

He got 28 games with the Flames last year, and it's a very good bet that he gets more than that this year.

But yeah, ragging on the team is more fun.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Florida lost a lot of pieces, especially with Duclair out most of the year.

Tkachuk-Barkov-Reinhart
Verhaeghe-Bennett-Hornqvist
Lomberg-Lundell-White
Cousins-Luostarinen-Balcers
Staal-Tierney

Forsling-Ekblad
Marc Staal-Gudas
Carlsson-Montour
Del Zotto

Bobrovsky
Knight

And Maurice instead of the Coach Q / Brunette combo.

To me that team really lacks depth outside of that top line and Ekblad. And is $3.3M over the cap before Duclair is on LTIR.

Looks like a team poised to regress this season.

[dino7c]

Might be okay but certainly not a "stacked team"

[activeStick]

Will be interested to see Paul Maurice's impact

[Sandman]

Lundell will take a step forward, and so will Spencer Knight, but the loss of Marchment will sting, and Tkachuk won’t match Huberdeau in offensive production. Their D is much worse off though, with Tre poaching Weegar. I don’t think they are as good this year as last.

[Vinny01]

The Flames-Panthers blockbuster sure makes Florida look a lot less deep. Having Barkov and Huberdeau each anchor a line gave them an unreal top 6. Tkachuk-Barkov-Reinhart has the chance to be the best line in the league in my opinion but I question the rest of that forward group.

[Roof-Daddy]

The Panthers were able to get 115 points from Huberdeau while he was lugging around late blooming non-elite's like Bennett and Duclair.

Because of that they were able to trot a stud like Barkov out on another high octane scoring line.

I don't think we'll see Tkachuk take his own line, away from Barkov, and smoke the league for 115 points. He probably won't put up anywhere near 100 points even if he is playing WITH Barkov.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

The Panthers were able to get 115 points from Huberdeau while he was lugging around late blooming non-elite's like Bennett and Duclair.

Because of that they were able to trot a stud like Barkov out on another high octane scoring line.

I don't think we'll see Tkachuk take his own line, away from Barkov, and smoke the league for 115 points. He probably won't put up anywhere near 100 points even if he is playing WITH Barkov.

I don’t see it happening either. A lot of his success came from Sutter’s puck-possession, up-tempo style that steeply tilted the ice. My bet is he doesn’t even get 90 for the rest of his career.

[USflamesfan]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I don’t see it happening either. A lot of his success came from Sutter’s puck-possession, up-tempo style that steeply tilted the ice. My bet is he doesn’t even get 90 for the rest of his career.

Agreed...Sutter talked about how skilled Tkachuk was coming off the boards and around the net. That implied someone else was handling AND dishing the puck to him. The guy to do that in Florida was Huberdeau.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I respectfully disagree. Defensemen like Wolanin, Cholowski, Juolevi, Pouliot, and Connaughton were picked off waivers in 2021-22. If they can get picked up, surely Val and Mackey are likely to be as well.

Wolanin and Connauton were claimed in December, Cholowski in February, Juolevi and Pouliot in March. It's very different in October, when every team is trying to clear its own players through waivers – as other posters have pointed out.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Will be interested to see Paul Maurice's impact

Based on his coaching history he should bring stable mediocrity to Florida.