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Old 08-28-2022, 04:19 PM   #61
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Can I help you do the interior with sculpted concrete so it doesn’t look like some lame ass square box but a cool cave? That way you can call it your cave vs a bunker for resale value. I bet Mull would buy a cave.
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Old 08-28-2022, 04:21 PM   #62
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I hate to burst your bubble but something like this is almost impossible to pull off due to safety codes. Ventilation, emergency egress, and fire suppression will all need to be considered.

If you have an unlimited budget you could maybe pull it off, but realistically it ain't happening.
There are always thousands of reasons not to do something...never let that stop you. A bunker sounds amazing. I look forward to seeing this idea executed on.

In London they're already having NIMBY wars about them:
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Old 08-28-2022, 06:49 PM   #63
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How would you power it. Assuming you're in a bunker for a solid period of time I am guessing electric infrastructure will have been affected by whatever event caused you to retreat to your bunker. Seems like a not so great idea.

Unless I guess you're just living in the bunker in mostly darkness, candles for light, blankets for heat, canned food for nutrients.
Nuclear reactor, obviously.
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Old 08-28-2022, 07:11 PM   #64
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So let’s say you were in your sealed bunker with lots of oxygen tanks and survived a nuke. How long would you have to stay in there until it wasn’t death from the radiation levels on the surface?
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Old 08-28-2022, 07:13 PM   #65
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CP work bee similar to a barn raising or garage build.

I don’t see the City approving this project.
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Old 08-28-2022, 07:24 PM   #66
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But why though? It’s a generic door at the back of your basement to a concrete storage room. Most people wouldn’t even be able to spatially position it relationally to the rest of the house in their head to know it’s in the front yard.
That's not what I am talking about.

I am thinking of a finished hallway. An extension of a nice basement with some stairs at the end of it that lead up to a casita in your yard.
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I'm willing to donate my time and shovel if it gets me a place in said bunker. If the UCP get re elected it could be the end of the world as we know it.
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So let’s say you were in your sealed bunker with lots of oxygen tanks and survived a nuke. How long would you have to stay in there until it wasn’t death from the radiation levels on the surface?
I believe I read that the radioactivity drops significantly and quickly. Hiroshima was devastated but people still lived there. The brass visited the site of the original bomb the next day.
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That's not what I am talking about.

I am thinking of a finished hallway. An extension of a nice basement with some stairs at the end of it that lead up to a casita in your yard.
That’s what he said he wanted though:
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My house is kind of perched on a small hill. I'm thinking we dig out down to the base of the foundation and crane in a pre-fabbed bunker in place. I'd have a doorway cut into the foundation for access into the bunker from inside the house. Then just back fill over top of the bunker and carry on with the yardwork.
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So let’s say you were in your sealed bunker with lots of oxygen tanks and survived a nuke. How long would you have to stay in there until it wasn’t death from the radiation levels on the surface?
I had a look into this, 'cause this thread made me curious about that, too.

A 10kiloton nuke is the one commonly used on a city. Assuming one of those is used, you'd want to wait a minimum of 24 hours before leaving. 48 hours after detonation, the exposure rate is just (...yeah, just...) 1%

Seems like you wouldn't have to stay in it very long. I guess you would with bigger bombs, but it seems like you could stock for 2 weeks, and by the end of that time, it's as safe as it's ever going to be outside.

Edit: The first 24 hours locked down is the most important, apparently. The exposure rate will fall by 80% in the first 24 hours.

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…A 10kiloton nuke is the one commonly used on a city….
Describe “commonly”.
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Describe “commonly”.
The one that the article writers figured would be used the most, as it's going to 'damage but not destroy' a city.
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Off topic but why do real estate professionals feel the need to randomly capitalize words in their ads? If my house was worth ~5m and the agent I hired managed to put together that mess of a SPriNgs SpEciAL listing I would be so embarrassed.
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My house is kind of perched on a small hill. I'm thinking we dig out down to the base of the foundation and crane in a pre-fabbed bunker in place. I'd have a doorway cut into the foundation for access into the bunker from inside the house. Then just back fill over top of the bunker and carry on with the yardwork.
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My now ex sister in law did exactly this for a tornado shelter. It was an extra 'lobe' of the basement foundation rectangle with no windows or structure above it. I seem to recall there was some extra work to make it water tight. Cost was only $10K or so (in 2010-ish), as are most greenfield things.

Granted it was for a new build house in the Red Deer area (Pine Lake was traumatic for her) but the City and Builder had no problem doing this as it was basically an extension of the basement. To make it a sound a little less crazy, in front of the kids and on blueprints submitted to the County it was labelled as "cold storage room". I want to say it was like 8x12" as it wasn't meant for prolonged habitation.

If you want some actual modern bomb shelter design info - checkout Singapore of all places as since 1996 it's been mandatory to have a "Civil Defense" shelter in all new places, including apartment style buildings. Kind of wacky to me given they live in 10-30 story apartment towers but then again I'm not the one who was bombed and occupied by an enemy force. Here is their 176 page technical design code requirements document: (its slow to load)

https://www.scdf.gov.sg/docs/default..._hstr_2017.pdf

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That’s what he said he wanted though:
Right.

Now a tunnel like I described might be kind of cool and I imagine more similar to what the house in Mount Royal has.
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Old 08-28-2022, 10:48 PM   #76
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I think it wouldn't hurt resale if you don't call it "bunker" on the ad and don't make it look like something from a cold war movie or the set of Lost. If you have surferguy make it a literal cave style man cave you might even recoup the cost on sale.

If you have it full of canned goods on resale you're going to absolutely take it on the chin, but if you're selling just remove all the prepper type stuff.
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Are residential places allowed to have a 2 or 3 story basements? that would be pretty sweet.
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It would probably be more cost efficient to sell a Bonavista property, buy an acreage outside of town and build a bunker that would otherwise be impossible in the city.

Hire a massive excavator to dig a huge hole, then go nuts building it.

I dreamed about doing that one day myself, but believe it or not, I do not have unlimited funds (nor do I own a place in Bonavista).
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