2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by handgroen

Boy pat was like a breath of fresh air after the junk on 960 lately

I heard him come on in the background today and turned everything off to listen and treat my ears to real sports radio.

It was like coming home to a nice cup of joe after all the other long timers left us for greener pastures. Even Logo sounded more energized.

[djsFlames]

Yeah I think it comes down to the Flames or Avs at a discount from what he had originally sought.

Might be a longer term with a lower cap hit in a stomach it later type of signing that ensures him a good total haul.

If he comes west I think it's in the 6-7.5 range for 6-7 years.

[Sandman]

We have the best LW in the game, 2 Selke worthy centers, a Vezina goalie, and perhaps the best D group in the NHL. IMO, we need another scoring C to round out our team, otherwise we might be spinning our wheels again come playoff time. If we are truly going for it, and of course we are, can we really afford to NOT bring in Kadri if we have the chance? Screw what his contract looks like in 5 years.

[djsFlames]

Agreed.

If Looch can actually be moved to clear cap, do it Brad. DO IT NOW.

(I can see why he would be shelfing it if Kadri's interest is a question mark though)

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Agreed.

If Looch can actually be moved to clear cap, do it Brad. DO IT NOW.

(I can see why he would be shelfing it if Kadri's interest is a question mark though)

Yeah, I guess if Kadri has other plans, disregard my post, lol.

I'm sure Brad has a Plan B,C,D, etc to get another C, they just might not be as good as Kadri.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Yeah, I guess if Kadri has other plans, disregard my post, lol.

I'm sure Brad has a Plan B,C,D, etc to get another C, they just might not be as good as Kadri.

I would suspect Milano and Stastny are further down the pipeline if Kadri and whoever else don't materialize.

It's been echoed a few times today that Kadri, Milano and Stastny are linked to the Flames.

I can see why everything is being held up by Kadri's camp. Unwise to get on to plan B before seeing if patience lands you plan A. Hopefully there is movement there soon.

[Sandman]

It would sure be nice to keep that beautiful D core together though, if possible.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

I would suspect Milano and Stastny are further down the pipeline if Kadri and whoever else don't materialize.

It's been echoed a few times today that Kadri, Milano and Stastny are linked to the Flames.

I can see why everything is being held up by Kadri's camp. Unwise to get on to plan B before seeing if patience lands you plan A. Hopefully there is movement there soon.

Stasny makes a lot of sense. Solid veteran who still puts up points in a lesser role.

I would prefer signing him in all honesty. Let's say we sign Kadri and then when it comes time to sign Lindy we have no cap. After Lucic and Monny the flames do not necessarily have any bad cap contracts thus dumping cap will affect how good the team is.

For the rumored price the flames need to stay away, Kadri isn't worth losing either Lindy or Hanifin long term.

[bubbsy]

What a weird feeling but I wish it was more plausible to move monahan and his cap than lucic.

Lucic is a major part of the identity of the team. Losing both him and gudrabson changes a lot about what it's like to play the flames.

Adding a kadri while keeping lucic would be pretty crazy. Would definitely amplify the "tough to play against" feel of the team.

[Vinny01]

If we are adding Kadri I agree I would rather dump Monahan. The one thing about Kadri is a really worry about his long term deal turning into the next James Neal here. He plays with an edge and his style of play feels like he could breakdown by the time he is 34-35. If they go 7 years on him I think they regret it. I would just love a 1-3 year deal but they will likely need to go long term to make it happen.

If the sign Kadri and Weegar all of a sudden their big cap hits are tied up in 30 something players and they could be like the Hawks/Kings post cup years but without the success.

[VilleN]

With Monahan and Lucic off the books, plus the cap going up we may be able to sign those players anyways.

I’d also point out that our window now is likely about 3-4 years, the future will be ugly any way you slice it, as is the cycle in the cap era.

[gvitaly]

My pure speculation is that we’re in on Scheifele. It seemed like there was a bit of a falling out with players in the WPG room. He is signed on to a decent deal for 2 seasons, but his character might be questionable. I would look to move a package around Kylington + Toffoli, or perhaps some prospects/picks if we can move salary out.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by VilleN

With Monahan and Lucic off the books, plus the cap going up we may be able to sign those players anyways.

I’d also point out that our window now is likely about 3-4 years, the future will be ugly any way you slice it, as is the cycle in the cap era.

Considering Huberdeau gets a 4.6M raise after next year and Weegar likely a 3.5M raise that leaves 3.5M left over. If Kadri is added one of those guys needs to go now not next summer. If Kadri doesn’t come they have a lot more flexibility next summer as I assume a guy like Hanifin will be dealt instead of lost for nothing and I don’t know if they extend him. The summer after they have Backlund and Tanev also up but Lindholm likely gets at least a $4M raise and Kylington likely 2-3M.

I wonder when the cap will start to go up and by how much?

[Deelow]

Originally Posted by _Q_

I feel like half the Lebanese guys I know in Calgary are Kadris. I am not surprised one bit if he has close relatives here.

I hear the Flames are signing Borhot.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

What a weird feeling but I wish it was more plausible to move monahan and his cap than lucic.

Lucic is a major part of the identity of the team. Losing both him and gudrabson changes a lot about what it's like to play the flames.

Adding a kadri while keeping lucic would be pretty crazy. Would definitely amplify the "tough to play against" feel of the team.

I agree that losing Lucic would change the team, but what he offers could be replaced for a fraction of the cap hit. We all like what he brings to the team, but his skill set is easily replaceable.

Not a weird feeling to rather move Monny in some respect. Unless he is healthy and productive , he brings nothing to the team other than a huge cap hit. If he can rebound, what a huge lift for the Flames, as he fills a huge need.

If the Flames could magically make both of them disappear, they would save more than about $12M in cap space, and could sign a $1M tough guy to replace Lucic. That would give them lots of flexibility this year. But they would need to be careful, as that cap space is needed next year for raises to Huberdeau, Weegar (hopefully) etc.

[SaskyFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

My pure speculation is that we’re in on Scheifele. It seemed like there was a bit of a falling out with players in the WPG room. He is signed on to a decent deal for 2 seasons, but his character might be questionable. I would look to move a package around Kylington + Toffoli, or perhaps some prospects/picks if we can move salary out.

He would be a great pickup, plus he is only signed for 2 more years so kind of fits that 2 year window when most of the team expires. I have no idea what it would take, Winnipeg seems to be in a weird spot.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Sandman

It would sure be nice to keep that beautiful D core together though, if possible.

The dream scenario for me would be somehow dumping Lucic+Monahan and then signing Kadri, and another depth forward like Motte or Milano to 1 year deals. Improve the roster and not be tied down to long term deals.

Kadri at 7x7 is scary but at 9x1 is very doable if they could clear the money.

[Royle9]

I doubt Kadri signs a 1 year deal.
He wants to cash in on his anomaly of a season, with term so that he can set himself up well into his retirement age.

I think the lowest he'd go is 3 years, but I think it'll likely be 4-5.
He's been asking for 6-7

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I doubt Kadri signs a 1 year deal.
He wants to cash in on his anomaly of a season, with term so that he can set himself up well into his retirement age.

I think the lowest he'd go is 3 years, but I think it'll likely be 4-5.
He's been asking for 6-7

I mean it's the middle of August and everyone is capped up. Kadri may not be able to get his ideal contract

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I mean it's the middle of August and everyone is capped up. Kadri may not be able to get his ideal contract

I think part of whats taking so long is the teams in the "hunt" are trying to make additional moves before announcing the signing.

But he'd be stupid to sign a 1 year deal and not cash in on his best season of his career.
He'll likely regress point wise and end up leaving a ton of money on the table.