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Old 08-15-2022, 09:40 AM   #3881
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People should stop with all the wife blaming comments. It's really making the people making those comments look stupid and petty IMO. Just let it go already. He made a decision he felt was best for his family. He was UFA, that was his right and his choice.
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Old 08-15-2022, 09:44 AM   #3882
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Man I get tired of the virtue signaling.

It's ok for hockey fans to be disappointed that a player left. If the wife had something to do with that, I think it's fine to state a theory or wonder who made the final call.

It's not cool to make her a villain though, as any intelligent happily married man is going to involve his wife in the decision making process.

But wondering or pondering if his wife played a role because of the confusion of how things went down doesn't make a hockey fan a terrible person. I think we need to pump the breaks a bit.
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Old 08-15-2022, 09:45 AM   #3883
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Old 08-15-2022, 09:54 AM   #3884
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Man I get tired of the virtue signaling.

It's ok for hockey fans to be disappointed that a player left. If the wife had something to do with that, I think it's fine to state a theory or wonder who made the final call.

It's not cool to make her a villain though, as any intelligent happily married man is going to involve his wife in the decision making process.

But wondering or pondering if his wife played a role because of the confusion of how things went down doesn't make a hockey fan a terrible person. I think we need to pump the breaks a bit.
The wife plays a role probably in 100% of all UFA signings where the player has a wife. What is there really to talk about or discuss?
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Old 08-15-2022, 09:59 AM   #3885
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The wife plays a role probably in 100% of all UFA signings where the player has a wife. What is there really to talk about or discuss?
It's a hockey forum.

A franchise player left.

I think each person can decide when they're done discussing it.
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Old 08-15-2022, 09:59 AM   #3886
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Man I get tired of the virtue signaling.

It's ok for hockey fans to be disappointed that a player left. If the wife had something to do with that, I think it's fine to state a theory or wonder who made the final call.

It's not cool to make her a villain though, as any intelligent happily married man is going to involve his wife in the decision making process.

But wondering or pondering if his wife played a role because of the confusion of how things went down doesn't make a hockey fan a terrible person. I think we need to pump the breaks a bit.
Sure, but the posts people are jumping on aren't saying "I wonder if his wife influenced his decision..." The posts getting the negative reaction are the ones stating that his wife made the decision for him and Johnny is whipped.

It smacks a little of the vitriol from when Pronger left Edmonton. Not a good look.

Up until he signed with Columbus, I didn't even know he was married and I certainly didn't know his wife's name. It's great to be a fan of the team but there's a fine line between enjoying the entertainment of a game and hoping the team does well to insulting players and their families when things don't go your way. Reminding people that they're crossing the line seems okay to me.
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Sure, but the posts people are jumping on aren't saying "I wonder if his wife influenced his decision..." The posts getting the negative reaction are the ones stating that his wife made the decision for him and Johnny is whipped.

It smacks a little of the vitriol from when Pronger left Edmonton. Not a good look.

Up until he signed with Columbus, I didn't even know he was married and I certainly didn't know his wife's name. It's great to be a fan of the team but there's a fine line between enjoying the entertainment of a game and hoping the team does well to insulting players and their families when things don't go your way. Reminding people that they're crossing the line seems okay to me.
Pretty sure I said making her a villain isn't cool and that any intelligent man would have his spouse involved in decision making.
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It's a hockey forum.



A franchise player left.



I think each person can decide when they're done discussing it.
I'm talking about discussing the wife's role

Which no one here has any idea about

CP first hockey forum I've read referencing a player's wife by first name while 'debating' why the player left

Just kind of weird and not a great look IMO
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Old 08-15-2022, 10:11 AM   #3889
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I'm talking about discussing the wife's role

Which no one here has any idea about

CP first hockey forum I've read referencing a player's wife by first name while 'debating' why the player left

Just kind of weird and not a great look IMO
First off where in my post did I villanize his wife or say he was whipped? His priorities are obviously his family and his new wife and there is nothing wrong with that nor did I say there was. To me it just adds up that the guy was always passionate about playing his career here until a year after he got married. There is also the best children's hospital in the US in Columbus, his wife is a pediatric nurse so that is a fantastic fit for her. I am not sure about the issue of using her name when we all know it, Johnny says her name in every press conference. My post was never blaming her for him leaving, he is an adult and can make his own choices. Him ending up in Columbus had a lot to do with also finding the perfect fit for her career as well and there is nothing wrong with that.
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I don't think the pediatric hospital would have anything to do with the decision. His wife is about to have their first kid and I doubt she ever works again other than being a stay at home mom.
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I'm talking about discussing the wife's role

Which no one here has any idea about

CP first hockey forum I've read referencing a player's wife by first name while 'debating' why the player left

Just kind of weird and not a great look IMO
Haha ya when pronger left Edmonton because his wife hated the city, nobody discussed it at all!
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Haha ya when pronger left Edmonton because his wife hated the city, nobody discussed it at all!
Yes, because it is every flames fans dream to compare themselves to the conduct of Oilers fans.
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I don't think the pediatric hospital would have anything to do with the decision. His wife is about to have their first kid and I doubt she ever works again other than being a stay at home mom.
Also, Alberta Childrens Hospital isn't exactly B tier 🙄, it's routinely scored above Columbus'
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I don't think the pediatric hospital would have anything to do with the decision. His wife is about to have their first kid and I doubt she ever works again other than being a stay at home mom.
I am sure she will go on maternity leave but why would you assume she would give up a career she is probably passionate about just because she married a millionaire hockey player? This kind of comes off as sexist, now that she hooked the millionaire she should give up her career and be a homemaker for him? I don't think so.
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Also, Alberta Childrens Hospital isn't exactly B tier 🙄, it's routinely scored above Columbus'
It is also in Westen Canada and she is from the Eastern US.
Family and familiarity has everything to do with it.
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I am sure she will go on maternity leave but why would you assume she would give up a career she is probably passionate about just because she married a millionaire hockey player? This kind of comes off as sexist, now that she hooked the millionaire she should give up her career and be a homemaker for him? I don't think so.
It's not sexist, it's a pretty normal thing.

That's what my wife did because she would rather be home with the kids than continuing to work, and luckily we had the option.
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Finally caught the 30 for 30 documentary on the Gretzky trade and it's eerie how the rhetoric - and situation - around Janet/Wayne and Johnny/Meredith is so similar.

This kind of "Jezebelling" has been going on a long, long time.
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It's not sexist, it's a pretty normal thing.

That's what my wife did because she would rather be home with the kids than continuing to work, and luckily we had the option.
That is great but that doesn't mean every woman loses her passion for her work after having kids. Most don't actually.
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I'm talking about discussing the wife's role

Which no one here has any idea about

CP first hockey forum I've read referencing a player's wife by first name while 'debating' why the player left

Just kind of weird and not a great look IMO
I'm all for hammering people that take it too far.

But wondering what went down in what looked like a pretty confused decision is certainly on the table if handled in the correct way without personally attacking either the player or the player's family (wife).

Just seems like we're all in a big hurry to tell everyone how to act these days. Usually not needed.
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That is great but that doesn't mean every woman loses her passion for her work after having kids. Most don't actually.
I never said every woman does.
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