Lucic Bruins rumour

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

https://twitter.com/murphyslaw74/sta...ofX0Vkbo6Yvbow

Murphy commented about RA’s tweet regarding the Lucic to Boston rumors and RA replied “rumor?”

How do you all read that? RA didn’t think he was saying Lucic to Boston with the initial tweet or the he is replying saying it so not a rumor and it is a fact this will be legit going down?

Probably the latter if I had to guess? I think he fully knew what he was doing with that initial tweet.

[Sofa GM]

Hope it is something good, land a good top 6 fish Brad, or maybe even two!!!!

[dustygoon]

****Gets some WD-40 from the garage and sprays it around the F5 key****

[Locke]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

****Gets some WD-40 from the garage and sprays it around the F5 key****

Lol!

Dont worry about it, if anything is going to happen, it'll either happen on Monday or it has to happen now to make sense.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

What does any of that have to do with Lucic's current cap value?

If the Flames could move him, they'd have room to acquire a first line forward.

I assume he's unmovable or he would have been moved by now.

Makes no sense to move Lucic unless the Flames know for sure they’re acquiring a top line guy. If they aren’t getting a huge upgrade at forward, light as well keep Lucic for one last year.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

Makes no sense to move Lucic unless the Flames know for sure they’re acquiring a top line guy. If they aren’t getting a huge upgrade at forward, light as well keep Lucic for one last year.

Disagree.

Moving him (still dont think it happens myself) does 2 things.

Obviously the cap space becomes much more significant, and that matters as much later in the season as it does to start it. It allows deals to be made longer out from the TD than waiting to accrue XX dollars everyday leading up to it.

2, it opens up a W spot for the youngsters to try and win. The left side is crowded as it is. Let Pelletier or one of the other guys win that spot in camp....and if none of them really do enough to do that....guess what? You have cap space to go shopping with on the market as teams that start people on LTIR start getting them back and are forced to make moves.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Disagree.

Moving him (still dont think it happens myself) does 2 things.

Obviously the cap space becomes much more significant, and that matters as much later in the season as it does to start it. It allows deals to be made longer out from the TD than waiting to accrue XX dollars everyday leading up to it.

2, it opens up a W spot for the youngsters to try and win. The left side is crowded as it is. Let Pelletier or one of the other guys win that spot in camp....and if none of them really do enough to do that....guess what? You have cap space to go shopping with on the market as teams that start people on LTIR start getting them back and are forced to make moves.

If the Flame have to eat money or send a sweetener it is not worth it if there isn’t another shoe to drop. Is Pelletier really going to benefit from the 4th line? There is the load management piece that has been brought up with Lucic where he maybe only plays 50 games next year. I think he brings value as an enforcer so I am of the belief if they move him another move is coming.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

Makes no sense to move Lucic unless the Flames know for sure they’re acquiring a top line guy. If they aren’t getting a huge upgrade at forward, light as well keep Lucic for one last year.

Assuming they could somehow get out of Lucic's contract without paying a sky high premium, the Flames should have done it yesterday.

They could use that money to sign guys like Stastny or Rodrigues, both of whom are massive upgrades on Milan.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Assuming they could somehow get out of Lucic's contract without paying a sky high premium, the Flames should have done it yesterday.

They could use that money to sign guys like Stastny or Rodrigues, both of whom are massive upgrades on Milan.

There isn’t going to be a sky high premium, some of the well below cap teams take him for a song because he’s only $1MM in actually money. Understand that this upsets Oilers fans, but it is the way it is.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

There isn’t going to be a sky high premium, some of the well below cap teams take him for a song because he’s only $1MM in actually money. Understand that this upsets Oilers fans, but it is the way it is.

And that team has to be one he agrees to waive for....its not so simple.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by transplant99

And that team has to be one he agrees to waive for....its not so simple.

Maybe we just employ the same negotiator that the Coil used to get Keith and Smith gone.

[transplant99]

I have no idea what you mean.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by transplant99

And that team has to be one he agrees to waive for....its not so simple.

There isn’t the same cost to moving Lucic as there was for a player like Zack Kassian. Lucic is still a useful player as an enforcer, teams that can find space on their team cap wise (like the Bruins with multiple players on LTIR) he is an asset

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by transplant99

And that team has to be one he agrees to waive for....its not so simple.

He has a 10 team trade list now so you wouldn't need him to waive for any of those teams. Boston and Cali teams likely on it

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Disagree.

Moving him (still dont think it happens myself) does 2 things.

Obviously the cap space becomes much more significant, and that matters as much later in the season as it does to start it. It allows deals to be made longer out from the TD than waiting to accrue XX dollars everyday leading up to it.

2, it opens up a W spot for the youngsters to try and win. The left side is crowded as it is. Let Pelletier or one of the other guys win that spot in camp....and if none of them really do enough to do that....guess what? You have cap space to go shopping with on the market as teams that start people on LTIR start getting them back and are forced to make moves.

Flames have 2.7 in cap space right now. Add Ruzicka, it’ll probably be roughly 1.9 remaining with 13 forwards, 7 d men and 2 goalies. Prorated that’s about 9 million at the deadline. No problems at all adding a forward. Lucic still provides value even if he ends up being the 13th forward ( dressing room) on the roster. I wouldn’t move him unless the cap space is actually being used.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by dino7c

He has a 10 team trade list now so you wouldn't need him to waive for any of those teams. Boston and Cali teams likely on it

If Lucic really doesnt want to be moved, why wouldn’t he just pick the 10 teams in cap hell, so a trade is impossible?

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

If Lucic really doesnt want to be moved, why wouldn’t he just pick the 10 teams in cap hell, so a trade is impossible?

Because he has pride and he gets the game……. Not all players are like Gaudreau

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Assuming they could somehow get out of Lucic's contract without paying a sky high premium, the Flames should have done it yesterday.

They could use that money to sign guys like Stastny or Rodrigues, both of whom are massive upgrades on Milan.

Ya, they’re upgrades, but maybe the Flames don’t want to give them term beyond next season. Flames need room for Huberdeau and the incoming Weegar extension. Those guys aren’t players I’d want to tie future cap space on.

[Roger]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Because he has pride and he gets the game……. Not all players are like Gaudreau

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Roger

The guy has already had success and won a cup, he isn’t going to screw over his current team when he is probably going through the motions for $6MM (and I don’t mean going through the motions like he won’t play hard)