2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I still say Coronato for Konecny is a trade that could work for both teams.

I don’t think so. I think Coronato joins the big club at the end of the NCAA season. I’d like to keep our recent 1st rounded (Valimaki, Pelletier, Zary, Coronato). If we’re going to spend big, I’d be more inclined to spend picks.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Fair point for sure; Hall looks good opposite Toff or even Mangiapane if you switch him and Toff between the 1st and 2nd lines but you can tell Backs is playing up the lineup and it exposes our lack of a 1-2 centre punch. I’d consider a Hanifin for Barzal swap but would want NYI to add as Barzal has trended downward since his rookie season and I doubt NYI would want to add. I can’t help but think the Flames are looking to trade though and as much as I love Hanifin I feel like he might be the piece used to upgrade the top 6.

I think NYI would want a haul for Barzal, guessing Hanifin + 1st at very least

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I still say Coronato for Konecny is a trade that could work for both teams.

It would save us the heartache of having to endure Coronato's trade request down the road. Konecny I feel is a guy who would thrive here.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by browntrout

I think this is the team you will see going into training camp. They probably want to see what they have in tanev and Monahan before giving PTO's. Hoping valimaki and Pelletier can make the jump and be effective. I could see a trade for a playmaker to try to help Monahan's game at the expense of a defenceman. Other then that roll with what you have and give her

I think Mackey makes the jump before Vallimaki

[bluejays]

Hall for Hanifin? Sign me up. Hall's contract is very do-able, and with Sutter coaching he'd probably do very well.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Who says no? Also to be clear I’m very much on the keep Hanifin train but you have to give to get and it would be from a position of strength the Flames would be dealing from:

To Boston

Hanifin

To Calgary

Hall

Huberdeau - Lindholm - Mangiapane
Hall - Backlund - Toffolli
Coleman - Dube - Monahan
Lucic - Rooney - Lewis
Ruzicka, Phillips, Pelletier

Weegar - Andersson
Kylington - Tanev
Valimaki - Zadorov
Mackey

Markstrom
Vladar


Hall adds that top 6 forward that the Flames are reportedly looking for, he just had a m-ntc kick in on the 2nd year of his 4 year deal and I can’t imagine he’d have Calgary on there. For the Bruins they get a cost controlled D while gaining a little more much needed wiggle room. It’s a win-win in my eyes but those are my eyes, what do you guys think? Is it close value for both? Would you do it?

Hall is old. I wouldn’t give up Hanifin for him. Having said that I wouldn’t mind Hall on the team. He is a Calgarian.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

I think NYI would want a haul for Barzal, guessing Hanifin + 1st at very least

Well the way I look at it, NYI can want a haul all they want, but ain't gonna be from the Flames. Hanifin is a top D on a good contract. Hanifin + 1st to start? Pfff....

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Who says no? Also to be clear I’m very much on the keep Hanifin train but you have to give to get and it would be from a position of strength the Flames would be dealing from:

To Boston

Hanifin

To Calgary

Hall

Boston is going to need forwards after this year and beyond, not defense...their top 3 are very good.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Who says no? Also to be clear I’m very much on the keep Hanifin train but you have to give to get and it would be from a position of strength the Flames would be dealing from:

To Boston

Hanifin

To Calgary

Hall



Hall adds that top 6 forward that the Flames are reportedly looking for, he just had a m-ntc kick in on the 2nd year of his 4 year deal and I can’t imagine he’d have Calgary on there. For the Bruins they get a cost controlled D while gaining a little more much needed wiggle room. It’s a win-win in my eyes but those are my eyes, what do you guys think? Is it close value for both? Would you do it?

IMHO, this trade is a win for the Bruins, they get a top D and save cap. Flames need RW and C not aging LW. I am not against trading Hanifin but it has to be a C or RW. If Hall if UFA, I wouldn't mind signing him.

[dissentowner]

Jesus, what is this boards obsession with Hall? He had one good year and is inconsistent and a LW which we don't need. Wtf...

[Roof-Daddy]

I still would like to see the Flames keep the top 6 D intact but if they do trade Hanifin for a top 6 forward I would prefer one that's in the same age range as Hanifin, not 30 already. Also would rather it be a center as opposed to a winger.

[Heavy Jack]

Mission successful! Really just want to get the discussions flowing again in the speculation thread and I had read an article about the Flames and Bruins as trading partners and it naturally mentioned Hall among others. It does neatly cover all sides and opinions discussed here after my post around the notion of a Hanifin/Hall swap including how Hanifin is the more valuable asset. Part of me has always wanted Hall on this team because it would be both hilarious and glorious to see him torch the Oilers in Flames colours; I also think he’d be a beast under Sutter. Ultimately though there are more pressing needs up front than a LW so I agree with the side that wouldn’t do the swap, at least straight up.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by jg13

62 pts a year average in the last 4 years despite being on GARBAGE Buffalo and Arizona teams is underperforming? Hall isn't a dinosaur. He'll put up solid numbers for the next 3 years on a good team.

But he hasn’t averaged 62 points in his last 4 seasons.

By my count, his last 4 seasons are:
21-22: 61
20-21: 33
19-20: 52
18-19: 37
That averages to 45.75.

You might be pro-rating them, but his games played are only:
21-22: 81
20-21: 53
19-20: 65
18-19: 30
So I’m not comfortable assuming a full season.

If you add his 17-18 MVP season with 93 points, it only brings the average up to 55.

I don’t take Taylor Hall if the give is Hanifin.

[Macho0978]

When Backstrom goes on LTIR the Caps will have a bit of cap space and sure look like a team that needs a dman.

McMichael for Valimaki and 2nd

or

Valimaki for a 2nd

Caps forwards are also looking very bad now too. They are definitely looking like a team on the verge of rebuilding so that 2nd might not be a late 2nd like in the past

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

But he hasn’t averaged 62 points in his last 4 seasons.

By my count, his last 4 seasons are:
21-22: 61
20-21: 33
19-20: 52
18-19: 37
That averages to 45.75.

You might be pro-rating them, but his games played are only:
21-22: 81
20-21: 53
19-20: 65
18-19: 30
So I’m not comfortable assuming a full season.

If you add his 17-18 MVP season with 93 points, it only brings the average up to 55.

I don’t take Taylor Hall if the give is Hanifin.

Between now and the beginning of the 18/19 season, Hall is a 0.79 PPG player. Yeah, injuries are a problem but he’s a very good player.

But no, I wouldn’t trade Hanifin in a “one for one” trade for Hall. Hanifin is worth more. I’d much prefer to target a centre as well. Centre > Defenceman > Winger.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Jesus, what is this boards obsession with Hall? He had one good year and is inconsistent and a LW which we don't need. Wtf...

This board fell in one with Chris Stewart once upon a time. Weirder things have happened.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I still would like to see the Flames keep the top 6 D intact but if they do trade Hanifin for a top 6 forward I would prefer one that's in the same age range as Hanifin, not 30 already. Also would rather it be a center as opposed to a winger.

Youth, team control and cap hit have a ton more value these days then we are used to. Unless Hall is coming with a good pick and prospect no way to that.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

When Backstrom goes on LTIR the Caps will have a bit of cap space and sure look like a team that needs a dman.

McMichael for Valimaki and 2nd

or

Valimaki for a 2nd

Caps forwards are also looking very bad now too. They are definitely looking like a team on the verge of rebuilding so that 2nd might not be a late 2nd like in the past

This is intriguing, just so that I can say our Michael is better than your David to my nephew's friend who is a die hard delusional Oilers fan.

[dammage79]

Oh man, I totally forgot the hard on for Stewart back in the day. Then we get him and splat. Nada.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Mission successful! Really just want to get the discussions flowing again in the speculation thread and I had read an article about the Flames and Bruins as trading partners and it naturally mentioned Hall among others. It does neatly cover all sides and opinions discussed here after my post around the notion of a Hanifin/Hall swap including how Hanifin is the more valuable asset. Part of me has always wanted Hall on this team because it would be both hilarious and glorious to see him torch the Oilers in Flames colours; I also think he’d be a beast under Sutter. Ultimately though there are more pressing needs up front than a LW so I agree with the side that wouldn’t do the swap, at least straight up.

I've always longed to see Hall in a Flames uni. I think he would he would have some extra drive playing here in his hometown, on top of playing for Sutter. Your forward lineup looks very appealing to me.

[jg13]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

But he hasn’t averaged 62 points in his last 4 seasons.

By my count, his last 4 seasons are:
21-22: 61
20-21: 33
19-20: 52
18-19: 37
That averages to 45.75.

You might be pro-rating them, but his games played are only:
21-22: 81
20-21: 53
19-20: 65
18-19: 30
So I’m not comfortable assuming a full season.

If you add his 17-18 MVP season with 93 points, it only brings the average up to 55.

I don’t take Taylor Hall if the give is Hanifin.

You are right I did pro-rate them however, the last season was the season he was able to play the entire year it's much more safe trading for a guy that played

half a season, half a season, half a season, full season

than

full season, half a season, half a season, half a season.