Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[StickMan]

Originally Posted by Wormius

If he has some good ideas, he should present those, and only those, rather than his sophomoric, “this is my shot to be on joe rogan” thoughts. As such, he only appeals to the PPC crowd and not much beyond.

Like everything nowadays it depends on where you get your information. The state funded mainstream media doesn't like PP for obvious reasons. He never specifically told people to buy Bitcoin he just thinks people should have choice to do what they want, he didn't support any of the illegal trucker convoy activities he just supports peoples rights to protest and be heard. He supports Canadian energy and using it to reduce global emissions instead of pointlessly taxing Canadians on their fuel and home heating. If you listen to him directly, and not the MSM or left-wing twisted spin on things, you might see why so many people like the guy. I personally would like to see how things play out under a PP prime minister. Nothing could be worse then it is under Trudeau.

[Mull]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Like everything nowadays it depends on where you get your information. The state funded mainstream media doesn't like PP for obvious reasons. He never specifically told people to buy Bitcoin he just thinks people should have choice to do what they want, he didn't support any of the illegal trucker convoy activities he just supports peoples rights to protest and be heard. He supports Canadian energy and using it to reduce global emissions instead of pointlessly taxing Canadians on their fuel and home heating. If you listen to him directly, and not the MSM or left-wing twisted spin on things, you might see why so many people like the guy.

You don’t think people here listen to him directly?

I have and that’s why I don’t like him.

You really don’t think it’s possible for someone to just dislike him and a bunch of his policies?

For the record- my federal voting record is all conservatives except in 2015 because of reasons.

[StickMan]

Originally Posted by Mull

You don’t think people here listen to him directly?

I have and that’s why I don’t like him.

You really don’t think it’s possible for someone to just dislike him and a bunch of his policies?

For the record- my federal voting record is all conservatives except in 2015 because of reasons.

Give an example of what you don't like. Everything he suggests is in the best interest of Canada and Canadians and not some stupid woke ideology.

[IliketoPuck]

Originally Posted by StickMan

....depends on where you get your information.... state funded mainstream media doesn't like PP for obvious reasons.....MSM or left-wing twisted spin on things....

You wouldn't happen to do your own research would you?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Like everything nowadays it depends on where you get your information. The state funded mainstream media doesn't like PP for obvious reasons. He never specifically told people to buy Bitcoin he just thinks people should have choice to do what they want, he didn't support any of the illegal trucker convoy activities he just supports peoples rights to protest and be heard. He supports Canadian energy and using it to reduce global emissions instead of pointlessly taxing Canadians on their fuel and home heating. If you listen to him directly, and not the MSM or left-wing twisted spin on things, you might see why so many people like the guy. I personally would like to see how things play out under a PP prime minister. Nothing could be worse then it is under Trudeau.

Conservative leadership candidate Pierre Poilievre said Monday a government led by him would do more to normalize cryptocurrencies like bitcoin and ethereum in Canada to "decentralize" the economy and reduce the influence of central bankers.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poi...licy-1.6399986

What this should tell you is this is a man you do not want in control of Canada's financial future. Central bankers play a very important roll. Turning our country's financial systme over to unregulated crypto-currencies is a horrible idea.

“I’m proud of the truckers and I stand with them,” Poilievre said in an interview recorded on Thursday for next week’s episode of the Postmedia podcast Full Comment with Anthony Furey.

https://nationalpost.com/news/im-pro...se-to-protests

I don't know what you count as "support" but this sure sounds like it. If not, he need sot work on his communication skills.

So many people "like the guy" because he promotes populist ideals that sound good in short sound bites, but when put under a microscope the truth is revealed. They are bad ideas, and he has poor judgment.

[StickMan]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poi...licy-1.6399986

What this should tell you is this is a man you do not want in control of Canada's financial future. Central bankers play a very important roll. Turning our country's financial systme over to unregulated crypto-currencies is a horrible idea.


https://nationalpost.com/news/im-pro...se-to-protests

I don't know what you count as "support" but this sure sounds like it. If not, he need sot work on his communication skills.

So many people "like the guy" because he promotes populist ideals that sound good in short sound bites, but when put under a microscope the truth is revealed. They are bad ideas, and he has poor judgment.

He isn't saying to turn Canada's financial system over to crypto currency, he actually said "if he becomes prime minister, he would bar the Bank of Canada from issuing a central-bank digital currency".

He never supported illegal trucker blockades, he supported Canadians rights to protest legally and peacefully. You will not find him ever saying he supported any of the illegal activities.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Has the PC leadership been decided yet?

Don't really have political skin in the game except I've met Charest and believe he'd be a good choice.

It has been decided. They just haven’t voted yet.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by StickMan

He isn't saying to turn Canada's financial system over to crypto currency, he actually said "if he becomes prime minister, he would bar the Bank of Canada from issuing a central-bank digital currency".

He never supported illegal trucker blockades, he supported Canadians rights to protest legally and peacefully. You will not find him ever saying he supported any of the illegal activities.

Sure, I guess if you just ignore the words he actually says, like "a government led by him would do more to normalize cryptocurrencies like bitcoin and ethereum in Canada to "decentralize" the economy and reduce the influence of central bankers" or "I’m proud of the truckers and I stand with them," then maybe you could come to that conclusion? I dunno man, seems like you ignoring the world in front of your face.

[speede5]

Originally Posted by StickMan

He never supported illegal trucker blockades, he supported Canadians rights to protest legally and peacefully. You will not find him ever saying he supported any of the illegal activities.

Lol, and neither did a whole lot of people, but I never hear them decry any of it either. If you aren't calling it out you are supporting it.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Sure, I guess if you just ignore the words he actually says, like "a government led by him would do more to normalize cryptocurrencies like bitcoin and ethereum in Canada to "decentralize" the economy and reduce the influence of central bankers" or "I’m proud of the truckers and I stand with them," then maybe you could come to that conclusion? I dunno man, seems like you ignoring the world in front of your face.

You have to listen to the words PP meant to say, then you will understand what he wants to do.

[StickMan]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Sure, I guess if you just ignore the words he actually says, like "a government led by him would do more to normalize cryptocurrencies like bitcoin and ethereum in Canada to "decentralize" the economy and reduce the influence of central bankers" or "I’m proud of the truckers and I stand with them," then maybe you could come to that conclusion? I dunno man, seems like you ignoring the world in front of your face.

I don't see anything wrong with either of those statements. "doing more" to "normalize" crypto is pretty vague, using that clip to say that he is planning to "Turning our country's financial systme over to unregulated crypto-currencies" is pretty conspiracy theory type thinking.

If you ignore that the majority of the trucker protest was peaceful and you don't think that PP means that he stands by those peaceful protesters, I guess you could draw the conclusion that he is saying that he supports illegal blockades... Except he also specifically says he doesn't support the illegal blockades.

I personally like 90% of what he says as it will reverse everything that Trudeau has done to destroy this country.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Like everything nowadays it depends on where you get your information. The state funded mainstream media doesn't like PP for obvious reasons. He never specifically told people to buy Bitcoin he just thinks people should have choice to do what they want, he didn't support any of the illegal trucker convoy activities he just supports peoples rights to protest and be heard. He supports Canadian energy and using it to reduce global emissions instead of pointlessly taxing Canadians on their fuel and home heating. If you listen to him directly, and not the MSM or left-wing twisted spin on things, you might see why so many people like the guy. I personally would like to see how things play out under a PP prime minister. Nothing could be worse then it is under Trudeau.

This is satire, right? It has to be.

[PepsiFree]

I fondly remember the days of StickMan pretending he wasn’t Conservative and simply your run-of-the-mill non-partisan Trudeau hater.

We’ve gone from “PP has never said anything bad, and everything he’s said he been great and in the best interest of Canada” to “well, it’s actually all vague, so any negative interpretation is wrong.”

Keep it up. I’m having fun.

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1557364856310956032

[Mull]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Give an example of what you don't like. Everything he suggests is in the best interest of Canada and Canadians and not some stupid woke ideology.

Firstly, you don't seem to think that anyone's assessment of him being an ass in enough ways that we don't want him to represent us as Canadians count as a reason to not vote for him. Who the leader is matters as well as their policies.



This is not different than Canadians thinking Justin is elitist.

As for quotes, political did a good job of highlighting a bunch.


Lastly,

1. walking with a uniformed ex-military person and thereby supporting them against vaccine mandates showed him to be frankly stupid, or worse, intentionally ignorant of how the military and their rules work.
2. The quotes about the bank of Canada manipulation again is either stupid, or worse intentionally ignorant.

I am curious, I think more of my fellow Canadian then political with the "what they hear" editorial comments in the below link. But... after reading your comments in this thread.. did they nail your view?

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...perts-00023297

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

All I can say is that he better grow his hair back if he's going to call an election. That haircut has transformed him from handsome guy in a teflon suit to homely guy that nobody likes.

The Election of Samson.

He's lost all his power!

[timun]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Like everything nowadays it depends on where you get your information. The state funded mainstream media doesn't like PP for obvious reasons.

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1557364856310956032

Interesting how "the state-funded mainstream media doesn't like PP for obvious reasons" yet they're pretty clearly biased for the Conservatives and against the Liberals.



I guess maybe StickMan didn't mean that state-funded mainstream media...

[TorqueDog]

When the WE scandal was going on, I was actually a fan of Poilievre, hammering on the government for some accountability.

In very short order, through his words and actions, he managed to completely destroy my once positive opinion of him. That's Poilievre's fault. Blaming the MSM or wokeism is par for the course with Stickforbrains.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by timun

Interesting how "the state-funded mainstream media doesn't like PP for obvious reasons" yet they're pretty clearly biased for the Conservatives and against the Liberals.



I guess maybe StickMan didn't mean that state-funded mainstream media...

The Sun is the most right wing mainstream (print) media in Canada. No idea if they have received government funding or not.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

When we WE scandal was going on, I was actually a fan of Poilievre, hammering on the government for some accountability.

This is the correct role for him in opposition - attack dog. It's also the reason he was routinely dismissed as a possible leader. He's quite unlikable.