08-09-2022, 07:22 PM
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#1541
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by butterfly
Europe and the US have similar varying geographies and weather conditions.
It's possible to build around them. I-94 in western Minnesota comes to mind. Alligator Alley in Florida is over 100 km of freeway through the Everglades.
Yes. There is heavy truck traffic on those routes, especially the first one.
The Kicking Horse Canyon project looks great. I-70 through Glenwood Canyon (Colorado) was supposed to be impossible, too. And it did take many years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYL1YK3c4rw |
Europe has 20 times the population of Canada in only slightly more land mass. The US has 10 times the population in less.
Florida alone has more than half of Canada's population as a tax base, so 100 KMs of road isn't very relevant. One Hundred KMs only gets you 2/3rds of the way to from Calgary to Red Deer. It's nothing.
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08-09-2022, 07:24 PM
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#1542
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by mikephoen
Europe has 20 times the population of Canada in only slightly more land mass. The US has 10 times the population in less.
Florida alone has more than half of Canada's population as a tax base, so 100 KMs of road isn't very relevant. One Hundred KMs only gets you 2/3rds of the way to from Calgary to Red Deer. It's nothing.
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Yeah, I'm not entirely sure what point he's trying to make with this one.
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08-09-2022, 08:02 PM
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#1543
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by jayswin
How do you guys deal with one way conversation people? I've grown up super polite in conversation to the point of being that guy that will just sit there letting someone vent or ramble on about whatever bull**** is bothering them that day, with a smile and engaging facial expressions while wanting to jump off a bridge on the inside.
Why is there so many people that have zero ability to converse two ways? Like they just want to spew everything they've been thinking about all day and think other people actually enjoy that? It's crazy. Although I guess trying to be the nice guy that has time for literally any rant, issue or benign ramble anyone wants to toss against someone doesn't help matters.
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I know some people like this...thankfully only see them occasionally. At this point I just totally disengage and daydream...basically no engagement whatsoever. Non confrontational and I'm not being rude...I'm being nothing. These people generally lack self-awareness, but I figure with enough times getting basically no response they might eventually clue in a bit, or at least just stop talking to me.
So many years of wasted smiles and nods hiding my inner eyerolls. Now I'm just 
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08-09-2022, 08:40 PM
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#1544
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikephoen
Europe has 20 times the population of Canada in only slightly more land mass. The US has 10 times the population in less.
Florida alone has more than half of Canada's population as a tax base, so 100 KMs of road isn't very relevant. One Hundred KMs only gets you 2/3rds of the way to from Calgary to Red Deer. It's nothing.
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Building a road from Calgary to Red Deer is slightly easier than building one through the Florida Everglades. And, yes, Canada's population is relatively smaller. It doesn't grind my gears any less to have underdeveloped infrastructure compared to, say, Slovenia.
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Originally Posted by Locke
Yeah, I'm not entirely sure what point he's trying to make with this one.
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08-09-2022, 08:47 PM
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#1545
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
Building a road from Calgary to Red Deer is slightly easier than building one through the Florida Everglades. And, yes, Canada's population is relatively smaller. It doesn't grind my gears any less to have underdeveloped infrastructure compared to, say, Slovenia.
It's she, but it's nice to meet you.
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On a hockey forum its usually a safer bet, but my apologies. Nice to meet you too.
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08-09-2022, 08:59 PM
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#1546
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by jayswin
Canadian roads and highways should be inferior to most of the world just looking at a map. I appreciate that we attempt to keep up with citizens travelling vast distances over the second largest country in the entire world with only 37mil tax payers, but I ain't complaining when they fall quite short, as I can see how absurd it is to attempt to keep up with.
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Travelled 70% of the Trans-Canada in Ontario, road is in great condition.
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08-09-2022, 09:02 PM
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#1547
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Locke
On a hockey forum its usually a safer bet, but my apologies. Nice to meet you too.
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No worries. 
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08-09-2022, 09:34 PM
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#1548
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by butterfly
Building a road from Calgary to Red Deer is slightly easier than building one through the Florida Everglades. And, yes, Canada's population is relatively smaller. It doesn't grind my gears any less to have underdeveloped infrastructure compared to, say, Slovenia.
It's she, but it's nice to meet you.
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Ok, 100 Kms is also approximately the distance between Revelstoke to Golden, and that is definitely harder building that than building in the Everglades. And the population of BC is 1/4 of Florida.
Everyone would like better infrastructure, but we have to be realistic. I'm not sure if Slovenia has better roads than Canada, but I kind of doubt it. I guess it's possible though. But Slovenia is tiny. It's population density is more than 25 times that of Canada. It's the population density that you seem to be ignoring.
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08-09-2022, 09:35 PM
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#1549
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Yeah, that's what she's really missing here. It's massively different in Europe and the US.
Last edited by jayswin; 08-09-2022 at 10:02 PM.
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08-09-2022, 09:38 PM
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#1550
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damn onions
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I recently moved to Saskatchewan but have been driving all over the place across the prairies and on a recent drive thought to myself that we actually have unreal road infrastructure for the country we are and conditions, terrain, etc. to be honest. Things in Canada are so damn good and yet people just can’t figure out how to be happy.
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08-09-2022, 09:50 PM
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#1551
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Basement Chicken Choker
Join Date: Jan 2007
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To steal and morph a phrase, are we Can-adians or Can't-adians? Infrastructure is expensive, yes, but long-term it pays off. They managed to build a transcontinental railroad 140 years ago, expecting twinned highways from Vancouver to Sydney in modern times isn't unreasonable.
These kind of projects are what stitch nations together. I'd rather this, or getting clean water to reserves, or building shipping terminals on Hudson's Bay, or other infrastructure improvements than just about anything other than base social services.
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08-09-2022, 10:00 PM
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#1552
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Screw highways. I want coast to coast high speed rail.
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08-09-2022, 10:21 PM
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#1553
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Screw highways. I want coast to coast high speed rail.
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Give me the Futurama tubes or give me nothing
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08-09-2022, 10:46 PM
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#1554
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jammies
They managed to build a transcontinental railroad 140 years ago, expecting twinned highways from Vancouver to Sydney in modern times isn't unreasonable.
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Killing thousands of underpaid Chinese immigrants is a lot more frowned-upon than it was then.
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08-09-2022, 10:48 PM
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#1555
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broke the first rule
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
How do you guys deal with one way conversation people? I've grown up super polite in conversation to the point of being that guy that will just sit there letting someone vent or ramble on about whatever bull**** is bothering them that day, with a smile and engaging facial expressions while wanting to jump off a bridge on the inside.
Why is there so many people that have zero ability to converse two ways? Like they just want to spew everything they've been thinking about all day and think other people actually enjoy that? It's crazy. Although I guess trying to be the nice guy that has time for literally any rant, issue or benign ramble anyone wants to toss against someone doesn't help matters.
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You'd think they'd get the hint after the 20th "oh man, that's crazy..."
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08-09-2022, 11:02 PM
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#1556
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
How do you guys deal with one way conversation people? I've grown up super polite in conversation to the point of being that guy that will just sit there letting someone vent or ramble on about whatever bull**** is bothering them that day, with a smile and engaging facial expressions while wanting to jump off a bridge on the inside.
Why is there so many people that have zero ability to converse two ways? Like they just want to spew everything they've been thinking about all day and think other people actually enjoy that? It's crazy. Although I guess trying to be the nice guy that has time for literally any rant, issue or benign ramble anyone wants to toss against someone doesn't help matters.
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Originally Posted by jayswin
I guess now I'm just getting old and don't have the energy to be there for anyone that wants to get things off their chest or speak one way. These days I actually get physically and emotionally drained if I stand there and listen to someone for a few minutes. Worse so if they're flustered or ranty.
I've started becoming a little more rude and I don't want to be that way, but I've found myself more and more with people like that where I eventually kind of go "alright man, I can't do this for too long, sorry". But because I've historically been so polite I think it's throwing some people off, especially at work.
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Oh man, that’s crazy.
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08-09-2022, 11:08 PM
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#1557
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Oh man, that’s crazy.
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Maybe try directing the conversation a bit more.
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08-09-2022, 11:19 PM
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#1558
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by jammies
To steal and morph a phrase, are we Can-adians or Can't-adians? Infrastructure is expensive, yes, but long-term it pays off. They managed to build a transcontinental railroad 140 years ago, expecting twinned highways from Vancouver to Sydney in modern times isn't unreasonable.
These kind of projects are what stitch nations together. I'd rather this, or getting clean water to reserves, or building shipping terminals on Hudson's Bay, or other infrastructure improvements than just about anything other than base social services.
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Okay, but base social services make up about 80 per cent of our budgets (and growing). Then we have core capital expenses taking up most of the rest. It’s not as though any level of government has 10s of billion laying around that they don’t know what to do with.
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08-09-2022, 11:35 PM
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#1559
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Why the F is there a polio outbreak in the US?
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08-10-2022, 05:10 AM
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#1560
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Originally Posted by DoubleK
Why the F is there a polio outbreak in the US?
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It was either that or a vaccine-induced autism outbreak...
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