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Old 08-09-2022, 01:51 PM   #1541
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I was watching on AMC+ and they had a scene pop up right after the Vince Gilligan/Peter Gould credit screen. Was that supposed to be a post credit scene or teaser for next week? I try to avoid those teasers but this just came on right away with no narration.
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Old 08-09-2022, 01:59 PM   #1542
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The sappy part of me see's Saul making his way to Florida, begging Kim for forgiveness before surrendering to the FBI.

The other part see him driving off into the distance...in B&W with a pile of cash...

Ending up in Maine (?) where WW spent a lot of his time...before finally moving to Manitoba.
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Old 08-09-2022, 02:11 PM   #1543
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I was watching on AMC+ and they had a scene pop up right after the Vince Gilligan/Peter Gould credit screen. Was that supposed to be a post credit scene or teaser for next week? I try to avoid those teasers but this just came on right away with no narration.
This one? It's a teaser for next week.



The teasers this season have been pretty misleading. I wouldn't read too much into it. For example, the "after all that, a happy ending line" in this teaser:



Was revealed to be nothing more than a throwaway line used by Gene when told Marion he found Nippy.


The car in the finale seen might not be Gene's, it might be Saul's when he was grabbing the cash for Lalo. The line used in the teaser might be from the first time Saul was running away.

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This one? It's a teaser for next week.



The teasers this season have been pretty misleading. I wouldn't read too much into it. For example, the "after all that, a happy ending line" in this teaser:



Was revealed to be nothing more than a throwaway line used by Gene when told Marion he found Nippy.


The car in the finale seen might not be Gene's, it might be Saul's when he was grabbing the cash for Lalo. The line used in the teaser might be from the first time Saul was running away.
Getting disappeared again would seem to be a bit pointless of an ending.
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I enjoyed it he episode, but Jesse seemed uncharacteristic. Maybe I am misremembering BB, I seem to recall him being more reserved, like not just talking to somebody like that. It was as if they had written another character to be standing out there and then thought, “we’ll use Jesse here”. The Gene/Marion/Jeff story seemed convoluted to me. The best part was Kim’s arc that episode.
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I'm happy for Kim's new boring, guilt-free life.


Is this sarcasm?


Kim having pushed herself into about as pathetic a purgatory as Jimmy and his exile in Nebraska as 'Gene' is a tough watch. Banishing herself to this banal existence—hosting boring backyard barbecues with boring 'friends', working a boring dead-end job, getting ####ed by some boring doofus—is utterly depressing. Sad that she has punished herself this way. That said, good for her in that she never let herself become "Slippin' Kimmy". The catharsis from her breakdown on the bus back to the Albuquerque airport was... intense. In a way going to jail is maybe the only thing that will bring her some peace. Sadly I don't think Jimmy/Saul/Gene will ever repent, proving Chuck right all along.
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According to the Breaking Bad wiki, the day of the phone call to Kim was November 12th, 2010. Walking Dead premiered on AMC on October 31st, 2010. So by the 12th, two episodes had aired and it was already a huge hit and getting a ton of press and likely water cooler talk. It would have been a funny AMC crossover to have had the some talk about the 'cool new zombie show' during Kim's boring lunch with the other women who work at the sprinkler company. Especially since most of the ads that still run on AMC are for Walking Dead spinoffs.
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Old 08-09-2022, 07:56 PM   #1548
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This episode gave us so much to digest about Kim, a character so many of us have come to love through this journey. In terms of closure for fans, I'm not sure it was particularly satisfying. The 'yup' guy at the beginning was insanely depressing. But I see how for her character it does make sense. She has totally lost faith in herself to make decisions.
Aaah man, I didn't even piece this together until reading your post but yeah, she's become an incredibly passive person who can't/won't make a single decision whatsoever. 'Yup' can't decide if Miracle Whip is close enough to mayonnaise... and neither can she! Vanilla or strawberry ice cream for the birthday celebration at work? "They're both good."

All part of her penance...

Walter White "broke bad"; Kim is breaking sad.
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Yeah Kim taking the bad choice road when she turned the car around is pretty much why she completely stopped making decisions.

A Redditor also pointed out that she basically put herself in doc review permanently with her copy editor job, the same punishment Howard gave her after Jimmy aired a commercial without his boss' consent.
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Is this sarcasm?


Kim having pushed herself into about as pathetic a purgatory as Jimmy and his exile in Nebraska as 'Gene' is a tough watch. Banishing herself to this banal existence—hosting boring backyard barbecues with boring 'friends', working a boring dead-end job, getting ####ed by some boring doofus—is utterly depressing. Sad that she has punished herself this way. That said, good for her in that she never let herself become "Slippin' Kimmy". The catharsis from her breakdown on the bus back to the Albuquerque airport was... intense. In a way going to jail is maybe the only thing that will bring her some peace. Sadly I don't think Jimmy/Saul/Gene will ever repent, proving Chuck right all along.
I'm glad she made the right decision. Her life in Florida is a lot like Gene's. If he had been able to do as Kim he wouldn't be in the situation he found himself in at the end of this episode. His was a boring life too, and he could have kept it up indefinitely if he didn't take a step back into Saul's mindset.

Kim won't be happy but she's not on a dark road anymore. It's the best life she can ask for.
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According to the Breaking Bad wiki, the day of the phone call to Kim was November 12th, 2010. Walking Dead premiered on AMC on October 31st, 2010. So by the 12th, two episodes had aired and it was already a huge hit and getting a ton of press and likely water cooler talk. It would have been a funny AMC crossover to have had the some talk about the 'cool new zombie show' during Kim's boring lunch with the other women who work at the sprinkler company. Especially since most of the ads that still run on AMC are for Walking Dead spinoffs.
There have been hints and insinuations that TWD and BB are the same universe. Some have even suggested that Walt's recipe, in some fashion, resulted in walkers.
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I'm glad she made the right decision. Her life in Florida is a lot like Gene's. If he had been able to do as Kim he wouldn't be in the situation he found himself in at the end of this episode. His was a boring life too, and he could have kept it up indefinitely if he didn't take a step back into Saul's mindset.

Kim won't be happy but she's not on a dark road anymore. It's the best life she can ask for.
Her road is a different kind of dark. As I said, I interpret it such that she's punishing herself with that mundane life in Florida; her self-loathing has led her to live in a purgatory of her own making. A strong, smart, independent woman has reduced herself to a vapid dolt, because she hates herself. She got away with ruining the name of a good man who was once a mentor and could have been a good friend. He was murdered by a psychopath because of her stupid hijinks with Jimmy, and her guilt for that has ground her down into this ghost of a person, a shell of what she was, just floating through the rest of her life. She doesn't want to get away with it: the guilt is ruining her. She had to confess because the resentment at herself was going to kill her. She wants to be punished.

'Gene' on the other hand desperately doesn't want to be punished, and the persona is just Jimmy/Saul's last ditch effort to stay out jail. He doesn't feel remorse, he isn't sorry for anything that has happened: he wishes he had the chance to do it over again and actually get away with it. He wishes he could relive those times. He wishes he could be Saul Goodman. He hates that he can't be Saul Goodman anymore. This cockamamie scheme with Jeff is something he concocted because it's a pathetic last opportunity to dip his toes back in The Game. He can't help himself.

Kim hates herself for what she and Jimmy did; Jimmy hates himself for not getting away with what he did as 'Saul'.
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Loved the episode, but I didn't really get why Jeff swerved and crashed the car. Did he do that only to buy Gene some time? Seemed unnecessary. Do houses in Nebraska not have back doors? I felt he could have just driven away casually too.

Just seemed weird.
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Loved the episode, but I didn't really get why Jeff swerved and crashed the car. Did he do that only to buy Gene some time? Seemed unnecessary. Do houses in Nebraska not have back doors? I felt he could have just driven away casually too.

Just seemed weird.
I thought he simply panicked, not a calculated decision.
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I thought it was a great episode and sets up the finale pretty well. On Talking Saul, Vince said he made Rhea do that bus breakdown twice. I have no idea how someone could do that scene twice and make it look that genuine. I really like her as an actress.

I am a bit surprised that Saul knew where Kim works. During the signing of the divorce papers, she does tell him that she's planning on moving to Florida, but if she wants to leave that life behind, why tell Saul or even Francesca where they can reach her. I can't see Kim not being in the finale so maybe there's more to her story.

We do know that Saul disappearing is no longer an option as the actor who played the Janitor has since died. Besides, I can't imagine they would do that yet again.
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Yeah, Jeffy is just an inexperienced rube who panicked. It's a sign that Jimmy never should have gotten Jeff involved in this scheme, because Jeff is waaaay in over his head.
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Do houses in Nebraska not have back doors?
Saul broke into the house using the back door.
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So why not go out that way to avoid the cops?

I guess I can get onboard with Jeff just choking under the pressure though.
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Wow that was awesome! Kim Wexler is the driving force behind the whole series.

Not holding out hope that Rhea Seehorn wins an Emmy. She should have won multiple ones already.
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So why not go out that way to avoid the cops?

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I was sure that Gene had texted him instructions to do so and then tell cops that he just got tired and fell asleep on the road with his foot on a brake.
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