View Poll Results: Who should be Captain?
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Backlund
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240 |
50.31% |
Huberdeau
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59 |
12.37% |
Tanev
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74 |
15.51% |
Lindholm
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42 |
8.81% |
Monahan
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8 |
1.68% |
Rasmus
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6 |
1.26% |
Somebody else
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11 |
2.31% |
Nobody
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37 |
7.76% |
08-08-2022, 09:26 AM
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#141
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I don’t like the low guy on the roster or a guy that will be here for only 2-3 more years. Backlund doesn’t fit for me in this role. I am leaning heavily toward Huberdeau since he is the franchise player, paid to be the best and says he wants to be a leader. He is signed for 9 years. I am voting for him
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08-08-2022, 09:35 AM
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#142
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Scoring Winger
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If you want this team to move on and transition to a new era and identity, you have to make Huberdeau your C.
Love Backs and Tanev as A's, but c'mon.. captain?
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08-08-2022, 09:38 AM
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#143
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Franchise Player
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The requirements and attributes of/for the Captain of an NHL team are pretty simple.
Best Leadership skills. Nothing more and nothing less.
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08-08-2022, 09:40 AM
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#144
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fisher Account
If you want this team to move on and transition to a new era and identity, you have to make Huberdeau your C.
Love Backs and Tanev as A's, but c'mon.. captain?
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You make it sound like Backlund is a ridiculous choice for team captain. Why is that?
On the contrary one could argue that out of everyone on the roster Backlund is the most obvious choice since he has actually captained a team of elite-level professional players to a championship.
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08-08-2022, 09:42 AM
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#145
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
The requirements and attributes of/for the Captain of an NHL team are pretty simple.
Best Leadership skills. Nothing more and nothing less.
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I think the requirements are even more simple than that: he must hold a permanent roster spot. It's a pretty easy and fairly pointless job.
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08-08-2022, 09:44 AM
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#146
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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If Backlund was to be the captain why wouldn't they have named him last season? I wonder if they were holding it as a carrot in negotiations with Tkachuk or even Johnny? With a newly signed 8 year deal Huberdeau seems like an eventual choice given Backlund and Tanev both nearing their mid-30's.
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08-08-2022, 09:49 AM
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#147
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I think the requirements are even more simple than that: he must hold a permanent roster spot. It's a pretty easy and fairly pointless job.
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The good ones can make a profound difference re: setting/ keeping high accountability standards and buy in to system.
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08-08-2022, 09:50 AM
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#148
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
If Backlund was to be the captain why wouldn't they have named him last season? I wonder if they were holding it as a carrot in negotiations with Tkachuk or even Johnny? With a newly signed 8 year deal Huberdeau seems like an eventual choice given Backlund and Tanev both nearing their mid-30's.
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I seem to remember that the plan was to name a captain out of training camp, but then it didn't happen, and the season started so well that it essentially became an afterthought.
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08-08-2022, 09:52 AM
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#149
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
The good ones can make a profound difference re: setting/ keeping high accountability standards and buy in to system.
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20 years ago? Yes. I am not convinced that it makes any difference anymore. Kids are not the same today as they were in the nineties.
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08-08-2022, 09:54 AM
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#150
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
20 years ago? Yes. I am not convinced that it makes any difference anymore. Kids are not the same today as they were in the nineties.
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Well aware of the generational differences. Player Leadership matters...a lot.
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08-08-2022, 10:04 AM
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#151
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Dealing with officials is a big part - only captains and assistants are supposed to talk to them (which is why Tkachuk might not have been a good choice).
For me, it’s Backlund or Tanev. Huberdeau is too new. Let him get to know his teammates before he is given the role. The one thing about Backlund - it took a lot longer than I’d have thought for him to get the A. I always wondered if maybe he didn’t even want the job.
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08-08-2022, 10:15 AM
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#152
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
If Backlund was to be the captain why wouldn't they have named him last season? I wonder if they were holding it as a carrot in negotiations with Tkachuk or even Johnny? With a newly signed 8 year deal Huberdeau seems like an eventual choice given Backlund and Tanev both nearing their mid-30's.
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I suspect there were 2 factors.
At the start of the season, depending on how things played out, they were likely open to the idea of reacquiring Gio at the deadline in a deal similar to what the Leafs gave up for him.
Also, as you say, there's also a chance that they were going to offer the C to Tkachuk, but only after he signed a long-term extension.
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08-08-2022, 11:12 AM
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#153
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: F*** me. We're so f***ing good, you check the f***ing standings? Lets f***ing go! F***ing practice!
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I had posted this article last year when the debate was on who would replace Giordano as the C.
-In 2018 Captained Sweden to a Gold medal at the Worlds. Sweden was perfect with Backlund as captain, running the table to a 10-0 record. Here is some of the article https://www.nhl.com/flames/news/a-go...nt/c-298716768 after winning the gold from his coaches and teammates:
He earned some positive reviews in his first go-round representing Sweden with the 'C'.
"Tremendous job," Sweden head coach Rikard Gronborg said.
"I knew we had a good captain, but he did more than I thought he would do. He took tremendous ownership of the whole process of the players and he was a great link between the coaching staff and the players. Even before, he was doing the scheduling every day. That's the type of player he is. It was easy for us to reach the players because he was such a great link.
"Tremendous hockey player, tremendous person and a great leader."
Johan Garpenlov, Sweden's assistant coach, a three-time skater in past tournaments, and a veteran of 609 NHL games logged with stints with the Detroit Red Wings, San Jose Sharks, Florida Panthers and Atlanta Thrashers, echoed the thought.
"He's done a great job for us," Garpenlov said. "He's our leader, obviously, our captain. On and off the ice he's such a good player. He shows up every game, every shift. He makes the guys feel comfortable out there, even in the dressing room. He's done a great job."
From the coaches perspective, Backlund did a bang-up job.
From his teammates perspective?
Much of the same.
"Just great, great leader," said teammate and Nashville Predators forward Filip Forsberg. "Great player. Obviously playing against him a lot in Calgary, you see the two-way game that he brings. He's got a really high skill set but still one of the best defensive centers in the league.
"Coming in here, he was a guy taking charge, talking a lot, just being vocal in the locker room and leading on the ice. He was one of our best players every game I played here.
"I'm just proud to be his teammate."
The role was natural for Backlund, who in Calgary has sported an 'A' from time to time and was the recipient of the J.R. McCaig Award, given by the Flames to both the player and staff member who best exemplify McCaig's enduring virtues of respect, courtesy and compassion for all individuals he encountered both in his professional and everyday life in March.
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08-08-2022, 11:34 AM
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#154
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood
"I knew we had a good captain, but he did more than I thought he would do. He took tremendous ownership of the whole process of the players and he was a great link between the coaching staff and the players. Even before, he was doing the scheduling every day. That's the type of player he is. It was easy for us to reach the players because he was such a great link.
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I remembered this quote when I voted for Backlund, it really embodies what Sutter has been saying about preparation and professionalism.
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08-08-2022, 12:19 PM
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#155
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by RyZ
I could very well be wrong, but my immediate thinking is that for every elite team with a down roster, veteran player as captain, I can probably find you 5-10 elite teams with elite stars as captain.
My memory isnt great, but I cant remember the last time a team won a cup with a Bryce Salvador wearing the C.
There just isnt a great precedent for success there.
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Worrying about whether your team's captain is an "elite star" or not is a hallmark of crap teams that go nowhere.
For every "elite team" with "elite star" as captain you'll find lots of teams that were complete crap regardless. E.g. Jack Eichel didn't lead the Sabres anywhere. The Lightning won back-to-back cups in 2020 and 2021, but people forget they were dog#### when Vinny Lecavalier was their captain. Mike Modano in Dallas was an atrocious choice; he'd been the best player on that team for over a decade by the time they made him captain, and he wisely relinquished it two seasons later. Ask any Canucks fan who the Worst. Captain. Ever. is and they'll almost unanimously shout "#### MESSIER!" Alexei Yashin in Ottawa and Long Island? Shayne Corson in Edmonton? Roberto Luongo and his "honourary but official' captaincy in Vancouver? Prior to the Capitals' Cup in 2018 a lot of people said the worst, most undeserving captain in NHL history was Ovechkin.
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08-08-2022, 12:46 PM
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#156
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Franchise Player
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Dustin Brown was not a star, nor anywhere near the best player on his team. Seemed to work out OK.
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08-08-2022, 01:25 PM
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#157
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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That article about his role on team Sweden certainly paints a picture of a player with elite leadership skills anyways.
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08-08-2022, 01:37 PM
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#158
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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I would imagine Huberdeau gets the 'C' after training camp. It would be poor form to give it to him before meeting the team.
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08-08-2022, 02:17 PM
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#159
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First Line Centre
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Heart says Monahan (and I hope he has a resurgence and a terrific year).
Right brain says Backlund.
Left brain says Tanev.
Huby after a while makes sense, but I think it would diss (dis?) other player to parachute in a new captain who doesn't know the guy, the style, the coach(es) etc. Give him a year to warm up.
There is no bad choice I don't think.
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08-08-2022, 02:22 PM
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#160
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by taxbuster
Heart says Monahan (and I hope he has a resurgence and a terrific year).
Right brain says Backlund.
Left brain says Tanev.
Huby after a while makes sense, but I think it would diss (dis?) other player to parachute in a new captain who doesn't know the guy, the style, the coach(es) etc. Give him a year to warm up.
There is no bad choice I don't think.
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If it was going to be Monahan, it shoulda been this season (21-22). He's only got one year left on his deal and there's a chance he never plays in the NHL again.
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