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Old 08-05-2022, 01:39 AM   #541
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Rather eat the bird to tell.you the truth.
Speaking of birds… All of this complaining about keeping a division-winning team in contention, but we all know you’d be just as sour during a rebuild as this parrot…

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Old 08-05-2022, 01:45 AM   #542
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Jesus christ...

Whatever Tkachuk will or won't do for the next 1, 2, 5, 10 seasons has absolutely ZERO relevance to any of this.

He was gone no matter what.
He requested a trade, he was not going to sign in Calgary. EVER.

This is not Treliving deciding to move on from Tkachuk.
This was Treliving having to react to Tkachuk telling him, and everyone else in the league that HE WAS NOT GOING TO STAY IN CALGARY.

lol

That Treliving took that BS situation and turned it into:

1. An top line winger and top 10 league wide scorer, now committed to CGY for 9 years
2. A top pairing defenseman from the Presidents trophy winning team last season
3. A pretty decenbt prospect
4. A future 1st round pick

Is nothing short of a goddamned miracle.

Blows me away that there are some Flames fans in here wringing their hands over this.

LMAO
This is pretty much it...end of thread, not much else to say really

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Another positive of this signing is we have a nine-year reprieve from hearing, "you can't win the Cup without a top-3 pick on your roster."
I wouldn't be shocked if it turns into "You need to draft a top 3 pick. Not trade for one".
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I wouldn't be shocked if it turns into "You need to draft a top 3 pick. Not trade for one".
Oh, that was the original idea. Some posters insist that the only way to win a championship is to tank until you win the lottery.
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Old 08-05-2022, 02:21 AM   #545
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I’m thrilled we officially locked in Huby for a long time! We just won our division and were considered a contender going into playoffs. Now despite the doomsday feelings of a couple weeks ago, the roster is looking easily as strong as when the season ended.

Any perceived extra salary or term are pretty much standard for signing any upper echelon player over 25 to a long-term deal. At least we have a player who is a good bet to be half-decent value on the back half of the contract, as well as a really good chance at the cap growing A LOT by then too.

It’s already been mentioned in here that rebuilds aren’t assured to be a success, but it should also be said more often that they aren’t necessary for success. Washington and St. Louis never did a rebuild to win their cups. The Pens hadn’t sucked and drafted high for a decade when they last won back-to-backs. And of course we all know how well the Oilers perpetual rebuilds have set them up for sucess…
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Old 08-05-2022, 02:42 AM   #546
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Has anyone touched on the fact Brad did this over a dinner in Montreal before Hubey even set foot in Calgary as his new home?
What kind of voodoo horse tranquilizer pixie dust was sprinkled into the lobster to get this done?
I gotta see what this masterplan blueprint he laid out to get it done so quick.
I was most definately teetering on the side of giving up my seasons for over 20 years when this off season was going to $*** but Brad you sob, im in!!!


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Old 08-05-2022, 03:05 AM   #547
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I'm not sure the signing is the right move for the franchise - we'll have to just wait and see - but damn it's an exciting move. Huberdeau is going to be fun to watch over most if not all of his contract.
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Old 08-05-2022, 03:50 AM   #548
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Huberdeau, Weegar, Cole Schwindt, 1st Rd pick, for ~$17 million/yr

for

Gaudreau, Tkachuk, 4th Rd pick for ~$19.25 million/yr

for.the next 8 yrs

Seems somewhat even, The fact Treliving salvaged this is a miracle. Im looking forward to seeing who's playing RW on the top line next season. I think we're better defensively already, maybe slightly less so offensively but that could change with the right RW. With Huberdeau's ability to dish the puck it doesn't have to be expensive. look at what the Sedins did with a guy like Anson Carter.
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Jesus christ...

Whatever Tkachuk will or won't do for the next 1, 2, 5, 10 seasons has absolutely ZERO relevance to any of this.

He was gone no matter what.
He requested a trade, he was not going to sign in Calgary. EVER.

This is not Treliving deciding to move on from Tkachuk.
This was Treliving having to react to Tkachuk telling him, and everyone else in the league that HE WAS NOT GOING TO STAY IN CALGARY.

lol

That Treliving took that BS situation and turned it into:

1. An top line winger and top 10 league wide scorer, now committed to CGY for 9 years
2. A top pairing defenseman from the Presidents trophy winning team last season
3. A pretty decenbt prospect
4. A future 1st round pick

Is nothing short of a goddamned miracle.

Blows me away that there are some Flames fans in here wringing their hands over this.

LMAO
perfectly put. Treliving has been dealt a terrible hand in the last few weeks and it's pretty astonishing what he has done with it.

also blows my mind that people complain about the contract. Like, what did you expect? It was always going to be 8 years, and it was always going to be expensive. This is a top player (it's amazing that people want to argue he's rather a star than a superstar lol) who drives play and is 4th in the NHL in points over the last 4 years ... these guys don't come cheap, and you're not getting them on a 5 year deal. Add in the fact that it was well documented that they offered 8 x 10.5m to a player who is at a similar age, plays a similar position and had similar production, and yeah, good luck bringing that AAV down. And of course it will probably looks bad in the last 2-3 years of the deal, but that's the nature of these kinds of deals. Plus I actually think Huberdeau might actually age pretty well.

And in all honesty, I think Calgary just needed this. After the other two guys bolted, there was a lot of unfair criticism regarding the city and team, and a top player like Huberdeau signing long-term is the perfect answer to that. #### that "nobody wants to be here" narrative, just because two guys didn't.

If the return was spectactular when the trade was made, it is even more impressive today. If we re-sign Weegar (and I don't doubt it), it turns into a bloody homerun.
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Old 08-05-2022, 05:08 AM   #550
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8x9.5 of Tkachuk

Or

9x10 of Huberdeau
Swindt
1st 2025
1 x 3.5 of Weegar
More Weegar

What do you pick lmfao
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8x9.5 of Tkachuk
4th 2025

Or

9x10 of Huberdeau
Swindt
1st 2025
1 x 3.5 of Weegar
More Weegar

What do you pick lmfao
but the 4th rounder. Don't you forget the 4th rounder!!!
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Matthew Tkachuk made nine million last year.
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Uhm, I don't think so. His QO THIS year was 9, his salary last year was 7m.
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/matthew-tkachuk

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Tkachuk made nine million last season
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Old 08-05-2022, 05:19 AM   #553
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Why do people seem to think Huberdeau will age well? I’m not saying he won’t and I hope he will, but what makes people think so? He’s less physical?
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Old 08-05-2022, 05:22 AM   #555
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Much rather give this contract to Huberdeau over Gaudreau as I believe Huberdeau will be a better player over 30.

For those saying that's a lot of money given Huberdeau's age. He is 2 months older than Gaudreau, 2 months.
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Oh, that was the original idea. Some posters insist that the only way to win a championship is to tank until you win the lottery.
Has worked for the Oil, right?
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... And also, if the general take is "well it's not as bad as the Darnell Nurse contract", which I've seen in here like five times, that's not a great sign.
That's not the general take, that's a couple of guys reacting (overly) to an Oiler fan dumping on the contract. The general take, if you were reading the thread, was that people are overjoyed.

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And the cap is probably 5-7mil higher by then anyway

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That's not the general take, that's a couple of guys reacting (overly) to an Oiler fan dumping on the contract. The general take, if you were reading the thread, was that people are overjoyed.
Count me in as very pleased. Starting to get the impression Brad is really choked at the Gaudreau episode and is NOT letting any such thing happen again. Big boy pants on a big boy deal. As noted in 3-4 years the cap will be going up and will age okay.
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Why do people seem to think Huberdeau will age well? I’m not saying he won’t and I hope he will, but what makes people think so? He’s less physical?
Compare to Tkachuk who can’t skate and Johnny who is small

But who knows, they are just guessing
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