08-02-2022, 09:18 PM
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#41
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First Line Centre
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I wouldn't have guessed Mang is "already" 26. Feels like he's 23 or something.
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08-02-2022, 09:19 PM
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#42
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Resident Videologist
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08-02-2022, 09:20 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CMPunk
I'm not sure I like this. 5.8 per seems like alot to me. I just have a bad feeling he doesn't sniff 35 goals again
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If he gets 20 goals that’s still market value for that production.
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08-02-2022, 09:20 PM
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#44
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by AC
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Mangiapane rules. Stoked for this season.
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08-02-2022, 09:20 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Also of note the Flames can use their 2nd buyout window 48 hours from now on players who were on the reserve list at the most recent deadline and have a cap hit of at least $4 million.
Most likely they cannot use this window on Monahan if he is still considered injured.
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Isn’t the only buy out that makes sense be Mony? If they can’t use it on him the. I don’t see them using it on anybody.
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08-02-2022, 09:21 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
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I like this deal a lot but that's probably because I'm not as sold on Mangiapane as some others might be and I'm not sure he can be a 65-70 point guy long term, which is what I'd hope to see if the number was 6.5+. Glad he's locked up and hoping he outpeforms this contract forcing the Flames to pay him even more, later!
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08-02-2022, 09:22 PM
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#47
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Love the player, love the Brad. I don't see any reason he should get more then Kempe's 4x5.5. So, slightly disappointed but overall not too bad.
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08-02-2022, 09:23 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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This term makes the most sense for Mangiapane - 3 years takes him to 29 where he can try to get one more big deal before he’s 30.
You are probably looking at $7M to get him locked up for 7 or 8 years because at that case this is pretty much his last big contract if it expires at 34.
I would have loved a $6 x 6 or something like that but I doubt hes signed today in that scenario. He could have went to arbitration the next two years and just walked himself right to UFA.
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08-02-2022, 09:23 PM
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#49
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
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I love it that Tre keeps deals short. Long term contracts, more often than not, come back to bite you in the ass. Keeps players focused on performing. And if they turn out to be on the decline, we haven’t invested 5-8 years in them.
Only superstars should get long term deals because they’re basically irreplaceable.
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08-02-2022, 09:23 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Love this kid!!!
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08-02-2022, 09:24 PM
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#51
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First Line Centre
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When I saw Kylington contract I was guessing 3 years $5.5 mil. This is a great deal. Term isn’t great but I’m not comfortable giving him $7 mil either
Kylington and Mangiapane cap hit is less than Monahan and Lucics deals.
If Huberdeau and Weegar sign next summer could be a big summer. This team could really load up
If they don’t we could be selling off a bunch of guys who have favourable cap hits making them easier to move
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08-02-2022, 09:26 PM
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#52
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
A Lucic buyout? Is that possible?
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It's possible. Not worth much cap relief though. May as well hold him
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08-02-2022, 09:26 PM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
I love it that Tre keeps deals short. Long term contracts, more often than not, come back to bite you in the ass. Keeps players focused on performing. And if they turn out to be on the decline, we haven’t invested 5-8 years in them.
Only superstars should get long term deals because they’re basically irreplaceable.
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Yeah for the “re-build” crowd this isn’t a bad thing. Keep guys locked up cheaper for 2-3 years and re-assess from there.
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08-02-2022, 09:28 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I really dig the term. Short enough to become a great asset if a rebuild springs up.
These signings got me thinking they have the acquisitions lovked up now too.
Nice to see some clarity and where they can make a move or not.
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08-02-2022, 09:28 PM
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#56
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I’m actually fine with this contract. I really like him as a player, but I don’t know if he’s gonna keep that pace up. I think he hits 15-18 goals this season
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08-02-2022, 09:28 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Interesting to speculate why 3 years. His underlying metrics say this season wasn’t a fluke in terms of chances/ production. Maybe shooting % comes down but he didn’t even have PP time. Mangiapanne seems like a safer risk to go longer term. Why not pay up and use some cap for some UFA years? Hmmmm……
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08-02-2022, 09:29 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
A Lucic buyout? Is that possible?
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Not likely, that contract is essentially buyout-proof.
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08-02-2022, 09:29 PM
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#59
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK
Ruzicka needs a deal no?
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If Ruzicka was smart, he would demand a 1-year, 1-way deal at close to the league minimum.
It would make keeping him the NHL all year an easier decision on management. There would not have an impact on the cap and he wouldn't economical to send down.
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08-02-2022, 09:31 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chummer
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FWIW, Bratt is asking for $6.5 million, who is a comparable to Mangiapane. The Devils are offering $4.4 apparently.
You would have to think Bratt's agent likes this signing heading into their arbitration tomorrow.
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