Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Solid. 1 and 3 year old have covid just before vaccines become available. Permanent #### you to our inept government and regulatory bodies from me. A

I hope your kids make a full and quick recovery. Scary stuff for a parent to have two kids who are so young get sick with something we don’t know the long term effects of.

[Fuzz]

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...tion-coverage/

We also have the lowest single dose coverage in Canada. Also at or near the bottom for subsequent doses. Yay us!

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...tion-coverage/

We also have the lowest single dose coverage in Canada. Also at or near the bottom for subsequent doses. Yay us!

Did you adjust for demographics?

We still probably suck but it does change things a bit.

As an example if you use all people we have a 6.4% gap with BC. If you use 18+ That drops to 4%.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GGG

Did you adjust for demographics?

No ,you can follow the link and adjust by age group, but not demographics.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

No ,you can follow the link and adjust by age group, but not demographics.

You can but it misses the 40+ age group. Essentially what you’d want to know is that for each age band how deficient is Alberta or is the gap because we have less old people than BC?

Looks like it is there if I dig further -

So Alberta 70-79 women is 96.6, 94.5, 80 vs BC 70-79 women at 99, 97, 85

So still a gap between Alberta and BC but maybe about half??? Due to age distribution.

The other one I would love to see but don’t have data is an urban / rural split to see the difference.

Essentially I want to know if “Alberta” is the problem or is it just driven by distribution of various subsets of populations. The methods for driving up rates would change depending on the why?

[Fuzz]

https://experience.arcgis.com/experi...9e3cda29297ded

You can filter only by health region, unfortunately. So let's select "Interior", as that's the closest we could get for rural. 677 396 first doses out of a population of 834 775 = 81%

https://www.interiorhealth.ca/sites/...ty-profile.pdf

Looking at the Alberta map:
https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-1...m#vaccinations

Most rural areas are around 70%. Because interior health has cities like Kamloops, you could maybe add a Red Dear into the Alberta rural average, but even they are only 75% or so.

Obviously a real analysis will have to be much more rigorous, but at first glance, Alberta's rural is what is dragging us down. Which really shouldn't be a surprise at all.

[photon]

$10 to register for a membership to be able to vote against Smith.. but I don't really want to give the UCP any money...

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by photon

$10 to register for a membership to be able to vote against Smith.. but I don't really want to give the UCP any money...

Ask yourself if it's worth $10 to not have Danielle Smith as your Premier.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Dion

Smith seems to forget that actions have consequences. I wonder what she would say to downtown Ottawa residents who had their peace disrupted by the constant blaring of horns from the trucks and the smell of diesel fumes in the air.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1552318407013322752

Not to mention that this isn’t a federal case let alone one the federal government controls even if they could (which they can’t)

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Ask yourself if it's worth $10 to not have Danielle Smith as your Premier.

The question is does your vote against or for Smith hurt the province less than $10 for the UCP to use in the next election.

[Fuzz]

Paying for democracy is bull####.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by photon

$10 to register for a membership to be able to vote against Smith.. but I don't really want to give the UCP any money...

I want Smith to win. I think she's nutty enough that it will turn off more than a few people who would normally consider the UCP.

Jean would be scarier. I think he can seem normal enough to get the votes and then would let loose his insanity after he's elected.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by GGG

The question is does your vote against or for Smith hurt the province less than $10 for the UCP to use in the next election.

Not taxpayer funds, so don't worry about it. Just try and deter a monster from becoming your Premier.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

I want Smith to win. I think she's nutty enough that it will turn off more than a few people who would normally consider the UCP.

Jean would be scarier. I think he can seem normal enough to get the votes and then would let loose his insanity after he's elected.

I don’t think it matters who wins. The UCP will win the election. So who wins the leadership actually matters.

[Torture]

Well, this is a dumpster fire:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1552661341004898306

[Fuzz]

My view is that the entire budget for general practitioners should be paid for from
Health Spending Accounts. If the government funded the account at $375 a year,
that’s the equivalent of 10 trips to a GP, so there can be no argument that this would
compromise access on the basis of ability to pay.

This woman can't be permitted anywhere near a position of power. I guess if you are unfortunate enough to lose the health lottery, you better hope you have a really really good acupuncturist.

Absolute trash. This spending account is so stupid. The idea is to funnel government money into alternative medicine (go free market!) and cut healthcare spending from science based "alternatives". The reason healthcare spending works is most people don't need it all the time. The average cost per person is easy to calculate, and for many indivduals it may be near zero in particular year. But some years you need lots of health care. Having a small amount you can spend, spread out over your life isn't how insurance systems work. Everyone will spend what they have on massages when they don't need real health care, then get ####ed when they do.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Danielle Smith

"We do not spend a lot of time thinking about how gov't should intervene to protect legacy industries. When businesses and sectors get demolished, Albertans get busy figuring out ways to create something new from the rubble."

Well, unless it's oil and gas.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Torture

Well, unless it's oil and gas.

Legacy is an on word for a product whose demand increases year over year. It may become a legacy product. It is not currently a legacy product. And by protect you mean have as much royalty and Environmental regulation as possible while ensure the industry can still warrant investment.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Weitz

I don’t think it matters who wins. The UCP will win the election. So who wins the leadership actually matters.

If the UCP does win, it's Calgary's fault.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

I want Smith to win. I think she's nutty enough that it will turn off more than a few people who would normally consider the UCP.

Jean would be scarier. I think he can seem normal enough to get the votes and then would let loose his insanity after he's elected.

Doubt it. She's not an unknown commodity who suddenly went nutty. She had a radio show for years with these ideas