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Old 07-27-2022, 01:36 PM   #3821
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There's a rumor from Thomas Drance of the Athletic that Kadri has a pending deal with the Isles. Probably just looking to clear cap to make it work.
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Old 07-27-2022, 01:36 PM   #3822
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Old 07-27-2022, 01:37 PM   #3823
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It’s amazing how optimistic people are that Monahan can recover and contribute yet so much negativity towards Toffolli. The guy struggled being traded to a new team mid season. It happens

I’d bet Toffoli is more likely to score 30 this year than Monahan
Monahan was a fan favorite and some people don't want to give up on him yet. Toffoli is still a relatively new addition and didn't dump buckets of pucks in the net during the playoffs so it's easier to give up on him.

We really don't know what we have with Monahan after this surgery. Can he rebound and net 15-22 goals? Hopefully. Should we count on that? No way.

It is best to assume Monahan is done and to not expect anything out of him. I think many people have taken this approach. It will be a great feel good story if he does rebound but he's been breaking down for a while now and it just doesn't look good for him.
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Old 07-27-2022, 01:41 PM   #3824
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I actually want Kadri on the Flames pretty bad now. I know the risks, but short term he is exactly what this team needs. I could see something like 3 years, $7.5 million AAV or 5 years $6 million AAV being a fair deal.

The guy just gives 100% all the time. I suspect his production regresses back to career norms, but I don’t expect him to drop right off unless he gets injured. The Avs considered him a heart and soul guy over the past few seasons and the Flames could use that type of character. I would also love to see his nastiness on the ice in the BoA.
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Old 07-27-2022, 01:42 PM   #3825
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That's an absolutely horrible trade for Calgary.

Would be willing to trade Hanifin but giving up Mangiapane as well seems like a lot. It’s a tough trade to build a Barzal for Hanifin swap because both teams would probably feel they have the more valuable player that’s being traded.


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Old 07-27-2022, 01:43 PM   #3826
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Kadri is post apex and peaked last year. Don’t fool yourself, this guy doesn’t have that many teams lined up to get his services for a reason.
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Depending on his actual contract (and likewise Kylington's) but a move around Kylington+Lucic for "nothing" in order to sign Klingberg could be fun.

At least for this season the Flames would be better with Klingberg over Kylington while saving cap-space.
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Old 07-27-2022, 01:45 PM   #3828
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There's a rumor from Thomas Drance of the Athletic that Kadri has a pending deal with the Isles. Probably just looking to clear cap to make it work.
That would be the 9th or 10th player on the team over 30. That team will be a mess in a couple years
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Old 07-27-2022, 01:45 PM   #3829
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Depending on his actual contract (and likewise Kylington's) but a move around Kylington+Lucic for "nothing" in order to sign Klingberg could be fun.

At least for this season the Flames would be better with Klingberg over Kylington while saving cap-space.
We need help at forward the defense is solid. Need a 2nd line center and right shot right wing

I wonder if it's time to pull Coranato out of collage to play 2nd line...
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Old 07-27-2022, 01:50 PM   #3830
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That is an absolutely horrible deal for the Islanders lol.
Barzal sure has been living off that rookie year for a long time. Hasn’t scored 20 goals in a season since. Mangiapane scored 20 more goals than Barzal last year.
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Old 07-27-2022, 01:52 PM   #3831
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That's kind of up to Coronato, not the Flames though.
Also, if we're relying on a 19 year old with zero pro experience coming in to play on our second line, we're in trouble.
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Old 07-27-2022, 01:53 PM   #3832
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I wonder if it's time to pull Coranato out of collage to play 2nd line...
Send Conroy with the plane!
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Old 07-27-2022, 01:56 PM   #3833
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Kadri is post apex and peaked last year. Don’t fool yourself, this guy doesn’t have that many teams lined up to get his services for a reason.
Post apex based on age and when most players expect a decline, but there is still quite a bit of variation in that rule. Will his production decline quickly like Lucic, or more slowly like a Stastny?

I would gamble on the second example, but no one knows.
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Old 07-27-2022, 02:08 PM   #3834
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I co-sign trying to get another top 6 center over a top 6 winger. Having great center depth is usually how cup winning teams are built
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Old 07-27-2022, 02:09 PM   #3835
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The Flames need a top 6 RW, or they need a #2C. Either way, it significantly improves the forward depth and allows guys like Backlund and Coleman and Dube to be in roles that they can excel in, as opposed to having to punch above their weight class.
Agreed. But #2 C are much more costly to acquire than top 6 RW. If we want to bring in the former, the cost starts at Hanifin.
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Old 07-27-2022, 02:21 PM   #3836
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Toff has only put up 30 goals once in his career and that will be 7 years ago this season.
Well he put up 33 goals in 74 combined regular season and playoff games in 20/21.
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Barzal sure has been living off that rookie year for a long time. Hasn’t scored 20 goals in a season since. Mangiapane scored 20 more goals than Barzal last year.

He was fantastic for the islanders in their playoff runs in 2020 and 2021 I believe.


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Old 07-27-2022, 02:25 PM   #3838
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Toff has only put up 30 goals once in his career and that will be 7 years ago this season.
Scored at a 44 goal pace the season before last...28 in 56
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Old 07-27-2022, 02:27 PM   #3839
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Toff has only put up 30 goals once in his career and that will be 7 years ago this season.
28 goals in a shorten season too

I never said Toffolli will I’m just saying he’s more likely than Monahan

I don’t see Monahan playing 82 games or games at a level close to what he used to.

Some people said Nichushkin had the same surgery and look at him now? I’m reading he had it when he was 19 in 2014? Ok he’s good to go 8 years later?

Monahan has had 5 other surgeries too. Time to move on
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Old 07-27-2022, 02:29 PM   #3840
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Kadri is post apex and peaked last year. Don’t fool yourself, this guy doesn’t have that many teams lined up to get his services for a reason.
He doesn’t have that many suitors for the exact same reason Gaudreau didn’t. Cap space.
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