[News] Jake Virtanen on leave from the Canucks after sexual misconduct allegation

[Manhattanboy]

Has anyone seen the HBO show Beartown?

Eerily familiar plot. Swedish series with English subtitles about a junior hockey team in an industrial town in Sweden.

Examines all these issues.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

The rumour is that his contract is going to be terminated for breach a la Brendan Leipsic.

This season has been a #### show almost from the word go and this is just the final straw for me. Between all the health ####, my team's back office and ownership becoming a three ring circus, and now this I'm ready for 21-22 now.






Apparently not that far. As early as next week.

Well then, you must know more than us! I was only thinking that the wheel of justice rolls slowly but if it gets going and things happen based on the evidence than that’s great.

[shadowlord]

Civil lawsuit accuses Canucks’ Jake Virtanen of sexual assault
https://globalnews.ca/news/7862225/j...sault-lawsuit/

[1qqaaz]

They'll probably settle for an undisclosed amount, part of the agreement likely will include a confidentiality clause.

But I wonder how the Canucks will handle it.

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

They'll probably settle for an undisclosed amount, part of the agreement likely will include a confidentiality clause.

But I wonder how the Canucks will handle it.

We don't even know if he's guilty or not.

[MacDaddy77]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Has anyone seen the HBO show Beartown?

Eerily familiar plot. Swedish series with English subtitles about a junior hockey team in an industrial town in Sweden.

Examines all these issues.

Read the book, didn't know it was a show.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

We don't even know if he's guilty or not.

Settlements happen all the time irrespective if someone is guilty or not. Often the terms of the settlement will assert there is no admission of guilt or wrongdoing and a include a confidentiality clause as mentioned above.

[flames_fan_down_under]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Has anyone seen the HBO show Beartown?

Eerily familiar plot. Swedish series with English subtitles about a junior hockey team in an industrial town in Sweden.

Examines all these issues.

A really good book to read that delves into sexual assault is "Missoula" by Jon Krakauer. It touches on several important topics and explains why so many people, women for the most part, are reluctant to come forward with rape/sexual assault allegations.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

We don't even know if he's guilty or not.

As TorqueDog said, that's kind of the point of civil mediation. It's one of them, at least.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

We don't even know if he's guilty or not.

Civil cases aren't about guilt or innocence per se. It is for liability for potential damages.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

The rumour is that his contract is going to be terminated for breach a la Brendan Leipsic.

This season has been a #### show almost from the word go and this is just the final straw for me. Between all the health ####, my team's back office and ownership becoming a three ring circus, and now this I'm ready for 21-22 now.


Apparently not that far. As early as next week.

This is not happening. The NHLPA would file a grievance on behalf of the player and easily win. You can't terminate a contract on an accusation

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You can't terminate a contract on an accusation

No kidding. Imagine something insane happening, like a crazy Flames fan accusing McDavid just to get his contract terminated.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

No kidding. Imagine something insane happening, like a crazy Flames fan accusing McDavid just to get his contract terminated.

Well, they can’t do it now, you’ve let the cat out of the bag.


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[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

This is not happening. The NHLPA would file a grievance on behalf of the player and easily win. You can't terminate a contract on an accusation

This is why Virtanen will want to settle in mediation.
The extent of discovery isn't the same as it would be in actual litigation.
If a Court ruled in favor of the accuser, that could meet the for cause requirement of contract termination.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

This is why Virtanen will want to settle in mediation.
The extent of discovery isn't the same as it would be in actual litigation.
If a Court ruled in favor of the accuser, that could meet the for cause requirement of contract termination.

Or maybe he doesn’t settle because he knows he can win?

We really have zero idea of what happened.


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[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Or maybe he doesn’t settle because he knows he can win?

We really have zero idea of what happened.


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Yes, this is always a possibility.
Isn't that pretty much what happened with Kane?

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Yes, this is always a possibility.
Isn't that pretty much what happened with Kane?

From the outside the case against Kane looked far more damning, Kane had far more money and star power...so there's that!

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

From the outside the case against Kane looked far more damning, Kane had far more money and star power...so there's that!

I’m not sure why you say the case looked far more damning, when we really didn’t know what the evidence would ultimately be.

Charges were never laid because the prosecutors decided that their were huge inconsistencies in the evidence of the complainant and her mother, including outwards lies. And a lack of physical evidence.

We are left with the impression that this could have been a shakedown attempt, or simply a case where there simply wasn’t enough evidence regardless of the actual truth.

There is no way of every really knowing, other than no charges were laid, so Kane should be obviously presumed innocent. Plus there was not even enough evidence to go after a Kane civilly, where the standard of evidence is so much lower.


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[Cycling76er]

Not guilty verdict just posted in this case:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...ault-1.6532611

[powderjunkie]

Friendly reminder to MRAs everywhere that not criminally guilty does not necessarily = innocent. (I have no particular opinion on this case)