[Trade] Tkachuk (8 yrs x $9.5 mil) + `25 4th to FLA for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt & `25 1st

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I’m guessing by that rumoured package the Flames were hunting for a “now” trade.

…we sure are lucky that Florida blew their brains out with the return, because that Tarasenko return is hot #%**ing garbage.

It makes me think that the Flames are just focused on the short term. I see no world in which the Flames trade either Huby or Weegar.

I wouldn't read into the Blues offer too much. St Louis insiders were saying Kyrou wasn't available from the start of the whole thing and Necas would have been a fine starting point in a world where Florida didn't blow its brains out. Necas and a good prospect was more in line with what I was expecting.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Well, if it was all that was being offered it just is what it is.

…but yeah, if that was the deal then the fact that it got to that point would have been the end of Treliving. What an ugly return that would have been (if that’s what it was).

Trade was awesome. That St. Louis offer is hilarious in contrast to what Treliving actually got.

[icarus]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Alberta was once tropical. Give us 50 million years and we'll get back there. That or we'll drift north and become the next Antarctica.

True, Alberta was once a premier destination for dinosaurs. And no tax liabilities for them.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Trade was awesome. That St. Louis offer is hilarious in contrast to what Treliving actually got.

That St Louis return is what it would have looked like if St Louis was the only place Tkachuk would sign. Maybe Carolina was Necas + Jarvis...

[dino7c]

I think it's pretty safe to say the Flames took the best offer...it's hard to even fathom something beating it. Even if you are rebuild for life the assets you got are more valuable today.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Wow that Cox article in the Toronto Star is some serious garbage. Cox should be ashamed of that piece.

[bax]

Originally Posted by AC

https://theathletic.com/3443616/2022...shared_article

Rutherford says a source confirmed the finalists were Florida, Carolina, and St. Louis.

Says the STL offer was: "Tarasenko + Scandella + a high draft pick"
Says the CAR offer included Necas.

Another swing and a miss for that NRD guy on Twitter who said the Devils were “going so hard” at Matthew Tkachuk

[Jiri Hrdina]

If those are the bones of any deal, then Tree was right that the Florida offer was far the best. And I like Necas.

[Sandman]

Bill Zito should be fired.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

If those are the bones of any deal, then Tree was right that the Florida offer was far the best. And I like Necas.

I look at that St. Louis offer and then I think about how Steinberg etc. emphasized just how good Tree did given how tough of a situation Tkachuk put the team in…and I think I probably underestimated how tough the situation was if that was the foundation for a trade with the Blues.

[browna]

Still wonder if the Flames scared the Panthers into the thought that an offer sheet was coming from some other team, and Tre had FLA up the ante to have Flames elect club arbitration to take that option off the table for other teams (as FLA couldn't offer sheet MT).

[sureLoss]

The scary part is Tkachuk could have easily gave the Flames only 1 team to work with.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by browna

Still wonder if the Flames scared the Panthers into the thought that an offer sheet was coming from some other team, and Tre had FLA up the ante to have Flames elect club arbitration to take that option off the table for other teams (as FLA couldn't offer sheet MT).

Probably a good thought. Florida handing off their first round picks like candy

[Vinny01]

I think this is a good deal for both teams. Florida decided to get a different kind of winger to give the big money and term to play with Barkov for the next 8 years. Tkachuk is 4.5 years younger and a very rare player in the league.

Huberdeau is going to cost 9.5-11.5M to extend for the next 8 years. Weeger is likely in the 5.5-6.5M range so unless the Panthers were ready to do that they avoided what the Flames went through with Johnny and got Tkachuk.

This is as good of a move in terms of win now the Flames could have possibly pulled. Elite forward, top 3 Dman, and futures. Weeger is a huge upgrade on Gudbransen so a really nice pickup.

Pretty shocking deal even a couple of days later. Necas ++ might have been interesting.

I do think this team could use another top 2 line player

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

The scary part is Tkachuk could have easily gave the Flames only 1 team to work with.

Then they could have just refused to trade him. If we’re not gonna get any decent return, call his bluff and let him sit out all season.

Or if he signs for 1 year, trade him as a rental at the deadline.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

The scary part is Tkachuk could have easily gave the Flames only 1 team to work with.

and they could have said EAD...GL with your 80M contract after scoring 45 points on the 3rd line this season

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Then they could have just refused to trade him. If we’re not gonna get any decent return, call his bluff and let him sit out all season.

Or if he signs for 1 year, trade him as a rental at the deadline.

with the arbitration he couldn't sit out so yeah they didn't HAVE to do anything...he helped himself as much as anyone by including a few teams

[Hockey_Ninja]

Imagine if Tkachuk only wanted to go to St. Louis.....

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

Wow that Cox article in the Toronto Star is some serious garbage. Cox should be ashamed of that piece.

I haven’t read it but I agree because I am familiar with his work

(Except for the ‘Wow’, it won’t surprise me when I read it)

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Bill Zito should be fired.

Fired onto Treliving’s Christmas card list

Thanks, Bill!