[Trade] Tkachuk (8 yrs x $9.5 mil) + `25 4th to FLA for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt & `25 1st

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Yeah I need to hear from the wizard on this one.

That's a can't-miss interview.

Half expecting him to explain that it was a late night drunk call from Zito that his strip club buddies dared him to do.

The question around extensions is going to be the top topic of conversation for sure.

I imagine Tree will just go with “we now have options” as a response

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

The question around extensions is going to be the top topic of conversation for sure.

I imagine Tree will just go with “we now have options” as a response

"We're going to work diligently with MacKenzie and Jonathan"

"We have more options than we did yesterday"

Book it.

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

All Summer...

ComixZone:



Well...

Okay that made my morning. Well done sir!

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

He might mean he'll be a year older when his 8 year deal would start.

The difference between Huberdeau expiring at 37 vs 38 is kinda academic.

You’re banking on him being worth the deal for at least 4-5 years, and optimistic that he’ll be able to at least be a 50-60 point PP threat on the back end, same as you would be with Gaudreau.

Except in Huberdeau’s case, we get an extra year at $5.9M to play with.

Price of poker, and more importantly, the price of immediately showing the hockey world that this is a desirable place to play.

[Bonded]

Over/unders on any iteration of it is a process.

I'll set it at 5 lol

[Mitch]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Need better wheels than that for a top line.

I mean Toffoli is pretty much equal to Tkachuk in terms of skating and he did fine on the top line lol.

But I agree - I think Hubs is better with quick players (played with Bennett and Duclair this season?). Maybe we try Mang on the off wing?

[Roof-Daddy]

Hopefully both guys sign extensions right away, but if they balk at it at all hopefully Tre wastes no time in flipping them.

I suspect he will too, as I'd imagine having your two "franchise" players bolt on you in the same off season is going to leave Treliving with very little appetite for hanging on to players who hesitate in their commitment to being here for the long haul.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://twitter.com/user/status/1550866355557212161

Which means this was a surprise to Huberdeau and he didn’t waive to come to Calgary. That’s an interesting development.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Mitch

I mean Toffoli is pretty much equal to Tkachuk in terms of skating and he did fine on the top line lol.

But I agree - I think Hubs is better with quick players (played with Bennett and Duclair this season?). Maybe we try Mang on the off wing?

Pelletier or Phillips. Maybe Dube finally breaks out.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I think if either or both don’t want to sign now they should be traded immediately. I don’t necessarily think they’ll fetch more at the deadline.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Which means this was a surprise to Huberdeau and he didn’t waive to come to Calgary. That’s and interesting development.

It also means Calgary wasn't on his list of teams he'd block a trade to.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

It also means Calgary wasn't his list of teams he'd block a trade to.

Yeah, I'm sure we'll find out in the presser either way

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I think if either or both don’t want to sign now they should be traded immediately. I don’t necessarily think they’ll fetch more at the deadline.

Exactly. Work on a deal over the next week. If they can't get it done the returns will be massive.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Which means this was a surprise to Huberdeau and he didn’t waive to come to Calgary. That’s an interesting development.

Which just means Huberdeau didn't have Calgary as one of his 8 teams he won't go to.


...which I suppose is kind of a win.

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I think if either or both don’t want to sign now they should be traded immediately. I don’t necessarily think they’ll fetch more at the deadline.

Fully agree.

I'm also thinking of what their returns would be. Huberdeau to a team he'd sign with? That's worth at least two 1st round picks. Weegar? At least a 1st.

If the Flames walk away from Tkachuk with four 1st round picks and Schwindt, I mean...it's certainly not a bad start to a rebuild.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Which means this was a surprise to Huberdeau and he didn’t waive to come to Calgary. That’s an interesting development.

Why is not getting an extension offer equivalent to not waiving in your mind

He easily could have gotten the call saying we want to deal you do you waive and aren’t going to offer an extension.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Which means this was a surprise to Huberdeau and he didn’t waive to come to Calgary. That’s an interesting development.

These guys don't know everything that went down as much as they pretend they do

I have to think Brad talked to him

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Boreal

I wonder if if would lose lottery protection in that situation. A 2027 1st round pick is a long way away.

Yeah, protection is typically only one year, then the following year, it's locked-in.

That happened recently with the Duchene trade where Ottawa sent their 2018 first rounder to Colorado with the condition that if it was top-10 pick, the Sens would have the option of giving Colorado their 2019 first instead.

The Sens decided to keep their 2018 first to take Tkachuk fourth overall, so Colorado got their 2019 first without protection, and it ended up being fourth overall as well.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

It also means Calgary wasn't on his list of teams he'd block a trade to.

I might be dumb but how does that confirm he didn’t waive?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by bob-loblaw

Aw man. I'm scheduled to mow the lawn at noon.

Defer it

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Just want to clarify something on my stance after thinking for a couple hours:

1) in terms of value, I think the Flames did very well with this trade
2) if Huberdeau and/or Weegar don't work out/won't re-sign, they can be traded for high value assets
3) I simply fear that the Flames will lose out on converting these new players into assets because of the organization's insistence on playing 2-3 home playoff games a year

That will be an interesting thing to watch. I would have trouble believing that the management and ownership enjoyed the press recently about a couple players spurning Calgary. So, I can understand both people who are hesitant and people who believe that Calgary wouldn't dare allow that to happen two summers in a row.