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Old 07-22-2022, 11:15 PM   #761
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Re: brain farts but otherwise great

Hence, Tanev-Weegar.
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Old 07-22-2022, 11:16 PM   #762
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Kylington will be a top 4 d again!
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Old 07-22-2022, 11:16 PM   #763
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Interesting part to me is that Florida was on Tkachuks list.

I know they are good…but it just feels like he’d want a team in a bigger hockey market that had a bit more spotlight on it
No state income tax.

Also, the rumour was that he was one player who had the most negative reaction to all the COVID restrictions here. As long as DeathSantis is running things in Florida, COVID restrictions won't be a concern.


I'd also guess that while these guys love the adoration when they're on the ice, the anonymity while living your day-to-day life has appeal too.
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Old 07-22-2022, 11:16 PM   #764
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Cap space is almost irrelevant at the deadline as you are only paying for 20 percent of the year. Retaining half the salary means you are retaining 600K in that scenario, most teams have that much wiggle room.
It’s for the cap hit to squeeze in a player of that calibre for a playoff run. No one cares about actual dollars
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Old 07-22-2022, 11:16 PM   #765
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you mean another top pairing dman?

yeah he is.
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Old 07-22-2022, 11:16 PM   #766
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I read through this entire thread to know Twitter took it from this thread!


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Old 07-22-2022, 11:16 PM   #767
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Trade Valamaki and Kylington. Promote Mackey. Sutter still has a vet Dman coming in too, which many eyes will roll at as they did with Gud and Z last year.
Mackey is older than both these guys and hasn’t made the NHL yet..

I’d like to give Valimaki another shot and if Kylington puts in as much work as he did last offseason, he might be in line for another step in his development as well.

I think we keep all 3 and trade an established guy for a forward..?
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Old 07-22-2022, 11:17 PM   #768
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It's a nice feeling.

I would thank this post, but I'm also out of thanks.
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Old 07-22-2022, 11:17 PM   #769
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You guys didn't watch Weegar, he had the worst brain farts in the league. He looked great otherwise but horrible moments which at an aggregate dont show up in stats.
Yeah, no. People get so focused on the occasional hiccup *that every d-man makes* that they let it jade their view. Same thing happens here with Kylington like it did with Brodie.

This thread is a great explanation.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1550687397985263616

Hockey is a game of mistakes. They happen to everyone. The underlying numbers tell the true story on net-benefit at the end of the day.

Weegar is a beast.
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This is such a shocking twist. This off-season feels like a WWE storyline.

First we have the Gaudreau heel-turn. Then his faction-mate decides to leave behind him.

Then when all hope for the fans seems lost, a complete 180 happens out of nowhere which nobody, not a single person predicted.

I’d laugh if I wasn’t so numb
No kidding, my wife was pissed because she wanted to watch a show and I was like “I have to call my brother, the Flames just got Huberdeau”. Which pissed her off even more because she has no idea who Huberdeau is.
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Re: brain farts but otherwise great

Hence, Tanev-Weegar.
He doesn’t need Tanev
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Old 07-22-2022, 11:17 PM   #772
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Wow! Is this for real? Holy crap - it is! That's what I'm talking about! Wished it could've happened to get a blockbuster deal done for Gaudreau. Damn, that means no chance of tanking!
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Old 07-22-2022, 11:18 PM   #773
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This trade screams of a bidding war. There's always going to be caveats (UFAs next year)

But Huberdeau and Weegar AND an decent prospect AND a 1st? Jesus.

Buffalo wished they got even close to that for Eichel.

And our only add is a 4th ?? Lol

Anyhow, since the rebuild is over, I'd really like to see another top 6 forward, preferably of the Center ilk, either through trade or signing.

Sutter is always right, and Mr Sutter says the foundation of your team in Goaltending, Defense and Center. Not 20 million in wingers.

It would be pretty crazy if the flames made a move for Barzal now. Something like:

Florida’s 2025 1st round pick
A top prospect (Coronato/Zary/Wolf)
Valimaki (has to clear waivers this year anyways)
Conditional 2nd round pick (becomes a first if the flames make it to the WCF)

Too much? Too little? No idea really. It doesn’t sound like much when I read it because the islanders wouldn’t get a legit top six forward or top 4 defenseman… basically just magic beans.

Don’t really want to lose him but would probably have to add Dube to the deal. Or have to swap out Dube + the conditional 2nd round pick for Hanifin.


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So he is another Brodie
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Found this on Reddit in response to a Florida fan who was worried about the trade:


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Dude I know you just gave up Huberdeau AND Weegar AND a first, but just think about Tkachuk. Think about what he could become. Maybe one day he could be as good as Huberdeau!
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Old 07-22-2022, 11:19 PM   #776
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Yeah, no. People get so focused on the occasional hiccup *that every d-man makes* that they let it jade their view. Same thing happens here with Kylington like it did with Brodie.

This thread is a great explanation.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1550687397985263616

Hockey is a game of mistakes. They happen to everyone. The underlying numbers tell the true story on net-benefit at the end of the day.

Weegar is a beast.
Sounds like people who thought Brodie was the worst dman in the league because of similar mistakes
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You guys didn't watch Weegar, he had the worst brain farts in the league. He looked great otherwise but horrible moments which at an aggregate dont show up in stats.
Find me a DMan in the league who doesn’t have this happen to them... especially one whose Norris leading d partner gets a regular season ending injury, and has to cover for him.

Weager is elite, pp leader, hits, moves pucks well
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Old 07-22-2022, 11:19 PM   #778
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Teams have to make both good short-term moves and good long-term moves to be successful. This might only be good for the short-term, but has decent potential to be BOTH a short and long term good move. Which doesn't happen very often with a trade.
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Old 07-22-2022, 11:19 PM   #779
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FWIW, I believe Friedman had Weegar on his last two Norris ballots.

Fascinating trade. If Huberdeau does spend time here, perhaps that gives the Flames a good shot a resigning him. Equally important will be resigning Weegar. Looks like the Flames still have cap room as well. The Flames could be better ext year than they were last. What a stunning turn around here.

The pick and prospect are icing on the cake.

Trade reaction at the Athletic have the Flames with Two A+‘s, an A, and an A-.

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Old 07-22-2022, 11:19 PM   #780
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Was so close to making a parlay bet earlier this season that had Gaudreau going to Columbus, Florida getting Tkachuk and Huberdeau a Flame. But seemed too obvious to actually happen.
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