[News] Tkachuk notifies Flames he won't sign long term (The Athletic)

[Roof-Daddy]

I doubt Arizona wants Tkachuk lol

He'll reduce their Bedard odds

[TheScorpion]

I was just told by somebody very much in the know down in Arizona that there is "zero truth" in the idea that the Coyotes could trade for Tkachuk.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I was just told by somebody very much in the know down in Arizona that there is "zero truth" in the idea that the Coyotes could trade for Tkachuk.

Bummer. Wouldn’t have minded a Hayton + Chychrun + something else substantial for Tkachuk.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I was just told by somebody very much in the know down in Arizona that there is "zero truth" in the idea that the Coyotes could trade for Tkachuk.

Tkachuk is far too good of a hockey player for Arizona to be interested in. Better to trade for the Kassian’s, Ladd’s, Little’s of the world.

[tkflames]

Even if we get Kyrou...its unfortunate to remember that we could have had both if not for the Elliott trade...

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I was just told by somebody very much in the know down in Arizona that there is "zero truth" in the idea that the Coyotes could trade for Tkachuk.

Can’t take themselves out of the Bedard sweepstakes

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by tkflames

Even if we get Kyrou...its unfortunate to remember that we got could have had both if not for the Elliott trade...

Maybe we can trade for Noah Dobson instead from the Islanders, he put up 51 points last year from the backend. He would have led Flames dmen in scoring with that number.

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Maybe we can trade for Noah Dobson instead from the Islanders, he put up 51 points last year from the backend. He would have led Flames dmen in scoring with that number.

I actually think that the flames going defense heavy may be a good strategy given our coach.

Kyllington + Mangiapane for Chychurn or the trade basis you propose are both good options...

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by tkflames

Kyllington + Mangiapane for Chychurn or the trade basis you propose are both good options...

A Canadian and a Swede for an American? Probably a bad idea in light of recent events...

[Hackey]

We traded Jordan Kyrou for Brian Elliot and Noah Dobson for Travis Hamonic. Ughhhhh.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

In an Arizona situation, I think I'd want Chychrun, Crouse/Schmaltz, and Guenther

Oh dear lord, if only….

[cral12]

Originally Posted by tkflames

Even if we get Kyrou...its unfortunate to remember that we could have had both if not for the Elliott trade...

makes me cringe everytime I think of it, which is obsessively all too often...

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

One thing Leslie said that I think is important is that people shouldn’t automatically judge American players and assume they’ll eventually want out. He said Hanifin loves it in Calgary and that Matthew and Johnny are just different people and not every American player is the same

You definitely shouldn't assume every American prospect will want to leave Calgary as soon as they're able, but American prospects should certainly be tagged with an asterisk by the organization now and managed a certain way. Hanifin says he loves it in Calgary and maybe when his contract is about to end, indicates he wants to extend? That's great, but set a hard organizational deadline for him that is reasonable, for when a new contract needs to be signed. No hard feelings, it's just business.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

I remember reading somewhere Austin Matthews and him played a lot of youth hockey in Arizona together . He has ties there.

Not sure how much they could have played together at 5 years old and younger. They did play on the U.S. development team together and are good friends though.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Hackey

We traded Jordan Kyrou for Brian Elliot and Noah Dobson for Travis Hamonic. Ughhhhh.

Can't really play that game, who knows who the Flames would have picked in that situation and how the player would have developed

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by activeStick

You definitely shouldn't assume every American prospect will want to leave Calgary as soon as they're able, but American prospects should certainly be tagged with an asterisk by the organization now and managed a certain way. Hanifin says he loves it in Calgary and maybe when his contract is about to end, indicates he wants to extend? That's great, but set a hard organizational deadline for him that is reasonable, for when a new contract needs to be signed. No hard feelings, it's just business.

True, you can’t avoid them, but you have to be prepared for the flight risk and flip them when the warning signs appear. With Gaudreau and Tkachuk, there were a lot of red flags that were ignored.

[Gaskal]

Yes I would very much like that 2nd round for Smelliot back.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I was just told by somebody very much in the know down in Arizona that there is "zero truth" in the idea that the Coyotes could trade for Tkachuk.

Did you just PM Jordan! Or their one other fan?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Zero chance it would not be protected.

Even if it was, their 2024 first will probably be pretty good too.

I have a hard time believing Tkachuk would want to play the next 3 years minimum in that rink, but who knows? Maybe being able to golf in January and go to the store without anyone caring who you are would have enough appeal.

Originally Posted by Bonded

Reminds me of Shrek. Keith is a big man

I like to say I have the body of a professional athlete and leave out the part where that athlete is Keith Tkachuk.

[djsFlames]

Which performance was worse?

Elliott vs Ducks 2017
Markstrom vs Oilers 2022