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activeStick · 07-21-2022, 03:09 PM

A ton of time is going to be spent by the Flames talking to the players coming back to get assurances they'll remain in Calgary long term given what's happening. Glad it'll happen but the Flames will still be in a tough spot as player assurances don't mean much. Don't envy Flames leadership right now!

Bonded · 07-21-2022, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cobra

My point was is that it might be St Louis or bust, but Tkachuk is allowing the Flames to give the impression of competition.

In the Griffey situation, Seattle reported they had a deal in principle with the Mets to put pressure on the Reds to up their offer. This pissed off Griffey so much he let the cat out of the bag and said Cincy or nothing. Which I believe was the case all along.

We'll find out soon enough but I think Tkachuk wants to get paid and will not put himself a disadvantage. If it continues to drag then it will leak that is St Louis or bust

Bonded · 07-21-2022, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I think there is a misunderstanding.

I know the Flames would give him permission to talk extension, but I was wondering if he "needed" permission to talk to other teams at this point, or if being an RFA, he can talk to anyone without permission still.

It changes the dynamic a lot of Treliving works out a deal with NJ for example, and then gives permission to Tkachuk before finalizing the deal to talk to that one team, and only that team. If Tkachuk was given permission to talk to any team on his list, or if any team could approach him before a deal is worked out, that could kill a deal as Tkachuk could change his mind.

As soon as Flames elected for arbitration then Tkachuk could not openly talk to other teams but tampering probably happens anyway

The Cobra · 07-21-2022, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonded

We'll find out soon enough but I think Tkachuk wants to get paid and will not put himself a disadvantage. If it continues to drag then it will leak that is St Louis or bust

I think that Tkachuk likes money too much to limit himself to one team.

DJones · 07-21-2022, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cobra

I think that Tkachuk likes money too much to limit himself to one team.

Ya not sure why everyone thinks hes willing to take less money to sign with St Louis.

Like when has he even hinted at such a thing.

Geeoff · 07-21-2022, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonded

As soon as Flames elected for arbitration then Tkachuk could not openly talk to other teams but tampering probably happens anyway

Flames would be stupid not to let Tkachuk talk to the teams in the mix to maximize the value. He will probably extend the second he gets traded

The Cobra · 07-21-2022, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Geeoff

Flames would be stupid not to let Tkachuk talk to the teams in the mix to maximize the value. He will probably extend the second he gets traded

As I said, I assume Tkachuk made that condition of him providing a list.

DeluxeMoustache · 07-21-2022, 03:22 PM

So people were divided on Johnny

I assume it will be fine to boo Tkachuk when this is all done?

Aarongavey · 07-21-2022, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Buff

Tre could have the fleece of the century (in his favour) and some posters here would still think he made a terrible deal.

Well count me in the group that is looking forward to a fleecing by the Flames. Been a long time since we hands down won a trade.

dino7c · 07-21-2022, 03:24 PM

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Well count me in the group that is looking forward to a fleecing by the Flames. Been a long time since we hands down won a trade.

4 years to be exact

Toonage · 07-21-2022, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

So people were divided on Johnny

I assume it will be fine to boo Tkachuk when this is all done?

In his own words when asked about an extension...

Absolutely.

camm13 · 07-21-2022, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

So people were divided on Johnny

I assume it will be fine to boo Tkachuk when this is all done?

He gave us at least a heads up well ahead of time. Instead of playing us that there was a chance he'd stay. What's to boo him for?

Inferno · 07-21-2022, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

So people were divided on Johnny

I assume it will be fine to boo Tkachuk when this is all done?

If I was in Calgary I would.

Sure, he let them know so they could make a trade and get something but instead of embracing the opportunity to be the new face of the franchise that could still compete after his buddy Johnny Walkie left he decided to bolt too.

dino7c · 07-21-2022, 03:27 PM

honestly I am more pissed at Gaudreau...not even pissed just, WTF guy

I will certainly not be against booing Tkachuk though, or any other opposition player.

Bonded · 07-21-2022, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cobra

I think that Tkachuk likes money too much to limit himself to one team.

I 100% agree. I don't think it is St Louis or bust at all. I think it would already be out there if it was.

shutout · 07-21-2022, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by camm13

He gave us at least a heads up well ahead of time. Instead of playing us that there was a chance he'd stay. What's to boo him for?

For most people nothing.

But for you I would think it would be different.
Especially since he came out and said that he would not resign in Calgary all because of camm13.

dino7c · 07-21-2022, 03:29 PM

If some of these rumors are even close to accurate we should give him a standing ovation not boo

Bonded · 07-21-2022, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Geeoff

Flames would be stupid not to let Tkachuk talk to the teams in the mix to maximize the value. He will probably extend the second he gets traded

It is a bit of a game from the Flames side though. Let's say the only two teams in the mix are St Louis and New Jersey. St Louis' max offer is 9x7 and New Jersey is offering 11x7. It quickly becomes New Jersey or bust. Figure out the trade and then Tkachuk can negotiate quickly.

Aarongavey · 07-21-2022, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

4 years to be exact

Well no time better than the present to win another one.

FlamesAddiction · 07-21-2022, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Geeoff

Flames would be stupid not to let Tkachuk talk to the teams in the mix to maximize the value. He will probably extend the second he gets traded

Hopefully not all of them at once, and hopefully not until a trade deal is actually on the table.

If they let Tkachuk talk to all the teams on the list and one is offering $9 million AAV and the other is offering $10.5 AAV, Tkachuk could then just turn around and take one (or more) of those teams out of the mix and pull the plug on any deal Treliving was working on.

Treliving needs to wait until they are about to pull the trigger before letting him negotiate with another team. And hopefully other teams on his list don't start leaking that they are interested, because if Tkachuk preferred one over the other, he could shorten his list.